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Unless you know them personally, say nothing, or at most say only that you disagree with the methods used.

Sniping any animal from a blind off of a bait pile or bait station does not fit my defination of hunting. I did not see what I'd call a good shot either, most seemed to be shot in a way that allowed too much suffering. For squirrels, I aim for either the head, or to just clip the shoulder bones. This last shot takes out both lungs (even with a pellet rifle) and usually stops the heart instantly. At no time do I just aim at the squirrel, a bad hit is still a bad hit even if it is "just a squirrel".

If a friend of mine showed such a video of themselves, on the other hand, I'd be all over them about ethics, poor sportsmanship, and poor shooting.
 

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There's nothing about hunting in that video, or about fair chase or about respecting the quarry that you are hunting....that video was all some fool's desire to go out, kill animals and video tape it.

Scum that make these videos and post this crap is what gives an ethical hunter a bad name. I would be ashamed to say that I knew that person...That idiot is very fortunate that I do not. :-X
 

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I'd say death throes are part of hunting too, but for posting videos I agree it's unnecessary. Nothing different here than hunting in an area with an oak tree or beechnut etc. Why do you hunt there, because food draws them to the area for food. I have personally taken squirrels (rarely) at 100 yards with a good rest. Head shots aren't the ticket at that range with a .22, so the boiler room is where you put it. The only problem I see with posting something like this publicly is it gives animal advocate groups another thing to show and say, "see how horrible hunters are to make it suffer." The reality is that they suffer much longer by other means of death, ie. constriction, a cat trying to kill them or dogs, etc. Hopefully, some well meaning person will explain this to the person posting that (if they aren't PETA doing it on purpose) it can cause problems and to keep the videos private.
 

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lets just say he NEEDS a mentor


there are lessons to be learned from the squirel shot
he made scope adjustments while persueing live game
he has no clue about shot placement


but he is out there trying and promoting our sport
he wants his kids to hunt too
i think he is well intended
like i said he needs a mentor
maybe some of us should e-mail him privately about his errors


a 22 to a squeril would be like a 4 bore to a deer
and he wasn't to effective on the squirells
ITS GOT A LOT TO DO WITH SHOT PLACEMENT
 

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tacklebury said:
I'd say death throes are part of hunting too, but for posting videos I agree it's unnecessary. Nothing different here than hunting in an area with an oak tree or beechnut etc. Why do you hunt there, because food draws them to the area for food. I have personally taken squirrels (rarely) at 100 yards with a good rest. Head shots aren't the ticket at that range with a .22, so the boiler room is where you put it. The only problem I see with posting something like this publicly is it gives animal advocate groups another thing to show and say, "see how horrible hunters are to make it suffer." The reality is that they suffer much longer by other means of death, ie. constriction, a cat trying to kill them or dogs, etc. Hopefully, some well meaning person will explain this to the person posting that (if they aren't PETA doing it on purpose) it can cause problems and to keep the videos private.
I agree with the above statment. As far as the deer video is concerned, he made a good shot with a good blood trail and recovered his deer. I fail to see the problem. Not all hunting situations look like the ones you see on TV. He's not doing anything illegal and he is "hunting" after all. Hunting is not always a beautiful thing when it comes to the kill. You cant sit here and say that every shot that you have ever taken on any kind of game has always been perfect. I agree that his mistake is posting it.
 

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and how is a spine shot that only paralyzes the back legs a good shot or just death throes?? unethical and poor sportsmanship on public display!!
 

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That is not something I would post for all to see. Nothing to be proud of concerning his shooting skills. Or lack there of. I would wonder about anyone who says he has never made a bad shot at some time. But we don't advertise it.

This guy bothers me more, showing off 64 ducks he shot on Facebook and then getting busted for it. Taking that many shots at flocks of ducks, I have to wonder how many he wounded and or lost too.
Lots of ethics come into play when hunting.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/louisiana-teen-could-face-jail-time-after-posting-duck-hunting-photos-on-facebook/
 

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This is pretty much what happens when we shoot something, there is a lot of flopping around when you make a head shot, shots to the chest are less dramatic but take some time, and who hasn't made a bad shot occasionally. The difference here is that the guy got some real close up photography of it. Not something I would want to do, but it is reality.
 

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bilmac said:
This is pretty much what happens when we shoot something, there is a lot of flopping around when you make a head shot, shots to the chest are less dramatic but take some time, and who hasn't made a bad shot occasionally. The difference here is that the guy got some real close up photography of it. Not something I would want to do, but it is reality.
In a nutshell, thank you!
 

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I don't see any difference that someone hunting over a feeder and making a bad shot on a deer,sooner or later everyone that has hunted any length of time has made some bad shots,if they say different then they are lying
 

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Bad shots on paper are tolerable, bad shots on live game are inexcusable. If you can't kill it quickly with the first shot you don't need to shoot.
 
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