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Skeptic10787 said:
...and since Tony Gambino's moral fibers are so strong... of course he would have no reason to lie, right?
Oh yes. he's no rocket scientist great mind, but just a thug. Where did he come up with this stuff because I doubt he is an avid reader? Yet his story parallels many stories around even long prior to the internet.
So, if Hoffa is found in a GW bridge component then his 'inside' story carries just a bit more weight.

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Now, let me get this straight. He was just released from a twenty year prison term, says he can't (assume therefore he hasn't) talk with any other mob members, but he knows exactly what happened on 9-11. When exactly would he have learned this information. Oh, I guess he must of had mob visitors relaying all this info to him while he was still incarcerated. Yeah, that's it. ::)
 

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Don't know where his prison term was,,,,maybe he was in a 'condo' with some buddies watching Tel-a-version...maybe he's a good deductive reasoner, maybe his framework is based on experience. Don't know...but if Hoffa ever shows up where he said then he goes up on the credibility scale.

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Yeah TM7, this guy has credibility. I like the part where he said Lucky Luciano was making $65 to $100 million dollars a week. This back in the 1940's I believe. Given that J. Paul Getty was then the richest man in the world with a net worth of somewhere between $3 to $5 billion dollars in 1950, and the GNP of the entire USA was about $280 billion dollars, then I am sure that Luciano was making $3 to $5 billion a year. Yeah, right. ::)
 

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Yeah TM7, this guy has credibility. I like the part where he said Lucky Luciano was making $65 to $100 million dollars a week. This back in the 1940's I believe. Given that J. Paul Getty was then the richest man in the world with a net worth of somewhere between $3 to $5 billion dollars in 1950, and the GNP of the entire USA was about $280 billion dollars, then I am sure that Luciano was making $3 to $5 billion a year. Yeah, right. ::)
Don't know about Lucky's net worth, probably nobody does. Tony didn't elaborate how long or details how Lucky made 65+ million a week. Contact Szmanski and ask some questions of Tony..why don't you?
BTW,,,if Tony is a complete fabricator, what's his motive?

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Don't know about Lucky's net worth, probably nobody does. Tony didn't elaborate how long or details how Lucky made 65+ million a week. Contact Szmanski and ask some questions of Tony..why don't you?
BTW,,,if Tony is a complete fabricator, what's his motive?
You sure find it easy to just high jump over the highly improbable (some might say virtually impossible). His motive? Attention, money. Don't really care. The two examples I addressed above are so improbable as to make me seriously question anything he says. Now, if you really believe that Luciano was making upwards of 2% of the entire GNP of the USA, I don't think I can say anything that might set you on the course to reality. ::)
 

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Don't know about Lucky's net worth, probably nobody does. Tony didn't elaborate how long or details how Lucky made 65+ million a week. Contact Szmanski and ask some questions of Tony..why don't you?
BTW,,,if Tony is a complete fabricator, what's his motive?
You sure find it easy to just high jump over the highly improbable (some might say virtually impossible). His motive? Attention, money. Don't really care. The two examples I addressed above are so improbable as to make me seriously question anything he says. Now, if you really believe that Luciano was making upwards of 2% of the entire GNP of the USA, I don't think I can say anything that might set you on the course to reality. ::)
That's why I suggested you contact Szymanski and Tony. I only presented the article for discussion and I mentioned it might just be blather. But I did mention that if Hoffa's tomb checks out than maybe Tony's credibility goes up a few notches. That's all. You seem to present a cyber attitude that I'm the blame for Tony shooting off his mouth, that I support him, or even collaborated to write the article. Leastwise that's what I sense from your remarks, because I'm not 'highjumping' over any probable/improbable facts. Nor am I, as in your case quite possibly, jumping to conclusions. I would say quite conclusively that Tony knows more about the inner workings of the mob than you and me put together, and that his connection of NWO/gov type personalities, the mob, and the Vatican is an interesting proposition to ponder...wouldn't you agree?

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TM7, I apologize if I misconstrued your position. It just seemed to me that each of your follow up questions avoided the point I had made and was indicative of some sort of support for Gambino's tales. But seriously, if I find someone stating a couple of examples that are as improbable as Gambino's take on 9-11 (based upon his prison status over the last two decades) and Luciano's weekly income (providing a yearly income equal to the net worth of the richest man in the world at that time), then I'm am going to look at anything else he says with extreme skepticism.
 

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Even in the unlikely case that he somehow proves himself with the Hoffa story, I don't see how that would give him any credibility on his 9/11 theories. Motive? Attention, power, money, revenge... you name it. He's a career criminal. Who knows what he's thinking.
 

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Casull said:
Given that J. Paul Getty was then the richest man in the world with a net worth of somewhere between $3 to $5 billion dollars in 1950, and the GNP of the entire USA was about $280 billion dollars, then I am sure that Luciano was making $3 to $5 billion a year. Yeah, right. ::)

Off the topic, but I had to interject. Getty was not the richest man, and neither is Bill Gates today. They are like sixth-graders at the lemonade stand compared to the Rothchilds, etc. We are given that info so we have something to oooggghhh, aaaaawwwweee about. The real powers remain for the most part undiscovered to the average individual. Okay, that's all. Sorry to interrupt.
 
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