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OK, so the T/C handgun forum seems to have disappeared, so I guess this is as good of place as any to ask this. I have an Encore pistol and am strongly considering one of the JDJ calibers based on the 30-06 case. I would be using it for anything from deer to Elk. Does anyone have any experience with these? What are your thoughts?
 

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For the Contender, JDJ wildcats fill a niche and could be a good choice.

In the Encore, I would go with the more mainstream wildcats as more options exist: more chamberings; reloading data is more plentiful; dies are more plentiful (both new & used); and the number of users to bounce off of.

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Had a lot of experience with Contender in 6.5 and .309JDJ's and would highly recommend them to any serious handgun hunter. Only let them go because my aging and arthritic hands limit my handgun hunting to almost nil:tango_face_sad:. But, i would tend to agree with the above post, the Encore comes with the power needed and doesn't really need JD's help. Also, I much prefer the Contender to Encore in handgun platform...love it as a rifle, but it's cumbersome as a handgun compared to my Contenders.
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Traditional JDJ parent cases were .444 marlin and .225 Winchester. I see J.D. has some newer ones using the 30-06.
I haven't graduated to the Encore yet, but I've exhausted the available options with the contender.
Consider Bellm's chamberings:https://www.bellmtcs.com/bellm/barrels
I've found similar performance from Mike's designs as to JDJ's without the need for proprietary dies.
The 375 JDJ seems to be everyone's favorite... so it's more available on the used market.
I'd look also at:https://www.bellmtcs.com/bellm/barrels. His triad is a beefy bunch, consisting of 7mm Bellm, 308 Bellm and 358 Bellm.
I stumbled upon a 358 Alpo (358x444IMP) that uses shortened 35 Whelen Imp. dies. Definitely a bear!
I appreciate a lighter recoil so the 7mm Bellm is my favorite.
You can do a lot more with your frame than I can with mine so the skies the limit.
Always consider component cost and availabilities.
Shoot on.
 

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I don't have a JDJ but I took a Douglas top of there line rifle barrel and had MGM cut it down to 17" and chamber it for the 30-06 Ackley Improved for the Encore. It's a dynamite shooter And the recoil isn't bad at all I have a JB brake on it. I have shot 1" groups at 100 yards of course off a good rest
 

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having had several TCE barrels I would recommend only getting a rimed cartridge . JDJ has had several different ones . there just a bit easer to deal with in a brake open gun
 

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7mm Bellm, 308 Bellm and 358 Bellm
All of Bellm's triad are derived from the 444 Marlin.
 

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I have a couple of JDJ calibers 375, 309, they both are accurate and recoil is massive! If you have an encore go with a conventional round. To have to fire form, trim, neck ream each casing is a pain in the butt.
 

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I have a couple of JDJ calibers 375, 309, they both are accurate and recoil is massive! If you have an encore go with a conventional round. To have to fire form, trim, neck ream each casing is a pain in the butt.
444 marlin is massive. believe it or not it snapped off a dove tail scope ring . had a hammer spur on it and it snapped of the tang
 

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I had a 280 JDJ on the 30-06 case. Fireforming was problematic. Many shoulder splits with once fired brass. New brass might be better. A fine line between fully formed and moved shoulder and over pressure/flat primers. I wanted a light weight rifle and an Encore with a 24" barrel is NO LIGHTWEIGHT. I traded it and bought a 280 AI on a Colt Light Rifle - Best move I could have made.
 

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I have a 358 JDJ, and have taken a double-handful of deer. It has recoil, but it’s equally impressive on the other end. Definitely a hammer and with the 225 grain Accubond it would perform nicely on the Wapita!
 

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Have SSK 257,6.5,309,375,445SM Contender barrels and all are great cartridges. When I bought an Encore my first barrel was a VVCG 15 in 6 BR barrel and then I started buying a few SSK barrels.
6.5 Mini-Dreadnaught based on 220 Swift case. Sierra 120’s @ 2750 from 15 inch barrel.
also have 35-06 JDJ and 375-06 JDJ.
 

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I would take a serious look at the 6.5x30-30AI, 30-30AI, 7x30, and 35 Bullberry in a Contender. Note 35 Bullberry brass is formed from 375 Winchester available from Starline, and dies are available from CH4D. 6.5x30-30AI Dies from CH4D.
In an Encore I have a 260 Remington, which is pretty impressive. The 260 Rem Rimmed version using 307 Parent Brass would be very tempting. In 308 Cal I have a 7.62x54R which is not bad, and has a nice Rim. Another one to take a look at is the 307 Winchester. Brass can still be located for it. In a bigger bore I have a 356 Winchester. In a .358 one needs to check out Fury bullets now that the 180 SSP Hornady is no longer available.
I totally agree that a Rimed Cartridge is the preferred way to go.

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