Well about a year ago! Reading a thread somewhere a guy asked about the Kastking Rover 40 and was really getting raked over about it. I'd never heard of Kastking so looked it up. Went to Amazon and found one for about $45 and figured for that I'd take the chance, just in case the bad mouth was right! Well it's a sample of one and used it quite a bit last year for Catfish. Not a hitch one in fact was so nice I bought a Kastking spinning reel for crappie fishing. I have not one bad thing to say about their reels! That Rover 40 is about, not quite, but about a smooth as my ABU 6500! Compare's to my Millionaire really well. Wouldn't bother me to get another!