Hes not a monster but he is fairly mature and big bodied. My wife thought he was already bloated but this picture was taken about 2 hours after i shot him. he had some major ground shrinkage on his horns too. All i ever got was a side view and he looked good. then i found him and he only had a 12 and a half inch spread. But he is still my biggest buck with a bow so im not complaining . But he was gonna walk right past at 45 yards . I hit the VECtor grunt call real light and he turned and came right in. His tarsal glands are dark and stinkin bad already.Now i gotta go get him skinned and cut up.