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I am thinking of getting a North American Arms mini revolver. The choices are the small and easily hidden version in .22 RF, or the bigger and harder to hide .22 magnum. There are also barrel length options too.

Is there really a big difference in hitting power between the magnum and the .22 RF with practially no barrel to allow the powder to build up velocity? The smaller version is also cheaper as well.

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there is a huge difference between 22 mag and 22 lr even with the short barrel. I have my eye on a Black Widow myself.
 

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Since you seem concerned about the size difference relative to concealment, I have to wonder where you plan to hide it! ;D
I chronographed some mags from an inch and a half barrel some years ago and velocity was about 900 fps, pretty lame. For comparison, various loads from my AMT 6" auto run 1350-1700 fps for 40 grain and lighter bullets. If I couldn't carry something bigger than that I'd go with a knife.
 

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I have the Magnum with 1 5/8" barrel and the holster grip. I recommend this one especially if
you have big hands as the holster grip allows you to get a nice grip and shoot accurately.
 

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Is this for a last-ditch back-up gun or for fun shooting? If you are considering it for self-defense, I would urge you to consider looking into a more potent caliber and pistol. There are a ton of reliable, accurate and more powerful pistols out there for primary concealed carry. I am no expert, but I believe that many will agree with me. Far be for me to dissuade someone from buying a new gun, but if it were my life on the line, I'd want something more substantial.
 

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I know that I could use a bigger gun, but the problem is that these small framed revolvers are the ones you have with you as they are easier to carry over a larger handgun. No one wants to be shot with a .22, and if you have to use it, then the attacker is going to be physically weaker to beat the heck out of him.

Try carrying a medium sized .38 when it is 95 degrees out and have only a t-shirt and shorts. I have a Springfield XD-9 compact that I could use, but that won't hide well in very little clothing.
 

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Kel Tec, Secamp, Robaugh, NAA Guardan-----------all are more powerful and as easy, or easier to conceal than the mini revolvers. Not to mention faster to get into action, and easier to hit with.
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Look at the Taurus CIA 357
5 shots of 357 with a internal hammer that wont catch on clothing when pulling it from a pocket.
Or if need be , you could shoot it through a coat pocket.
Beats a 22 any day.


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you will be better served with a good knife.
 

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I have a NAA Mini 1 5/8" barrel and it came with the .22lr and .22Mag cylinder. I use the lr cylinder for range plinking fun and the mag cylinder when I drop this little critter in my pocket. My primary carry is either a full size 9mm when clothing/weather allows, a Makarov in 9x18 or Bersa Thunder .380 when I need more a concealable pistol. The NAA is carried as a last ditch BUG because its just too easy to carry, and yes I do carry a knife as well.
 

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I've got the short barrel version in .22 LR as well. I've shot the Mag version, and really wish that I had gone that route. I do not consider this a primary defensive weapon, but rather a very last ditch "stick it in his ear and shoot" kinda thing. I usually have a larger caliber handgun on my side, but this little NAA is very easy to slip into my pocket and pretty much forget it's there. There are times and places that I don't have a larger gun strapped to my side, but the little NAA is in my pocket (yes..along with a knife).
 

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I have the .22 mini, By advise from a police chief friend of mine first round is a shot shell, followed by fragmented 3 piece rounds. In Garland TX 2 years ago I was in a Hotel, when going back out to my car in a pair of shorts, left my .45 in the room and picked up the NAA, when Hispanic male tried to rob me with a knife, the shot shell was all it took, left him in the lot holding his inner thigh and privates and crying. Did not need to make a one shot kill, and said robber had one way ticket back home, .45 is my choice but why bring a knife to a gun fight. NAA is better than nothing, last ditch BUG gun, just my thoughts
 

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Plus 2 for a good knife.The 22 /22mag will work if everything works ,just like it is supposed to!!,I tend to think that the famous?infamous Murphy was a optimist. Doug
 

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I have the .22 mini, By advise from a police chief friend of mine first round is a shot shell, followed by fragmented 3 piece rounds. In Garland TX 2 years ago I was in a Hotel, when going back out to my car in a pair of shorts, left my .45 in the room and picked up the NAA, when Hispanic male tried to rob me with a knife, the shot shell was all it took, left him in the lot holding his inner thigh and privates and crying. Did not need to make a one shot kill, and said robber had one way ticket back home, .45 is my choice but why bring a knife to a gun fight. NAA is better than nothing, last ditch BUG gun, just my thoughts
You're a lucky guy butch! Had there been a determined attacker with a knife at .22 shot shell range, he would have sliced and diced you before you could cock the hammer for the second shot.
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You are right I was lucky, I learned a lesson, never leave without a hotel room with out the Colt, but the NAA may have saved my life in that case, but drugged out thug, I would have been in bad shape. Glad I had what I had, point I was trying to make was with just a pair of shorts on and 20 feet from my room I thought I was safe, just picked up the NAA because it was by my keys, or would not have had anything. Lesson for us all, it can happen anytime, better be prepared.
 

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moxgrove said:
there is a huge difference between 22 mag and 22 lr even with the short barrel. I have my eye on a Black Widow myself.
I agree that there is a difference between the 22 mag and 22 lr out of the short barrel. However the difference is opposite to what you might think. The advantage goes to the lr.

I once ran a penetration test with a Beretta Minx 22 short, an Iver Johnson TP22 22 lr, and an NAA mini revolver 22 mag. The NAA had the short barrel (I believe 1 1/8"). The lr penetrated most and the short came in second. The mag came in last. Even the short penetrated more than the mag! I called CCI and they told me the 22 mag was designed as a rifle round and used a slow burning powder. That short barrel just didn't burn enough of the powder to get the full potential of the mag.

If you really want one of the mini revolvers, I recommend getting the 22 mag/22 lr combination. Carry it with the lr cylinder. If you get just the lr version, its grip is so small you can't hardly hold on to it when you shoot it. The mag version has a little larger grip which makes it much more controllable.
 
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