223 and 9mm
I agree with most. It's (AR Rifle) not the best, but I think the rifle/ctg combo is easy to teach, train, and shoot. Please guide me to your dump site-I want to collect all the AR-15's you throw away. I think the same is true for the M92. a guy can carry ready to go with a loaded gun and 2 hi-cap mags and be ready to fight. It's fast into action, very managable recoil, and believe it or not, I think it's faster for a second shot follow-up. Now you're going to say you don't need a 2nd shot with a 45? You know as well as I do a hit in marginal hit with a 45 is just that, and the gun can be tough to use unless you use it alot. There are alot of guys out there with CCW permiits that DO NOT practice enough! I don't think any of you guys really want to get shot in the chest with a 9mm 125gr hollow point? I know I don't. I compete IDPA and IPSC stock with a M92FS and it is a very competitive gun. I don't win all the time, nor have I ever finished last, and I am one of the few using the 9mm gun. some use SA's, Kimbers, and Baers. The 92 always feeds and ejects, unless I have the only 92 from the factory that does? Unlike the reports I've read, I have no frame or slide cracks and I have shot it over 4000 (US MIL Hardball) times this year alone! I have a Kimber 45 and I love it, and I understand its merits as a personal self-defense gun. I carry it at times. that being said, I'm willing to bet the Beretta has seen very little actual firing in the gulf, Afganistan, or anywhere else. Maybe never in a real Military fire-fight? Nor would it have been if it was a .45! War has changed! USMC and Seal's use the M14 and rightfully so. I really think it comes down to the dinky, liberal, non-gun, non-shooting enthusiasts that get sucked into our Armed forces. They go in today planning on training, or being trained for a job or career, not a war. Rifles are an afterthought. The M4 is even a worse compromise. It's harder to shoot than the standard AR. But the grunt can carry lots of suppressive ammo for missing! It's just my views. Beware-the black helicopters are coming!