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90% of all Americans do not believe the official 911 conspiracy story lock, stock and barrel.
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And these guys don't-- knowing NIST lied........TM7
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9/11 The Lost Tapes full documentary – September 11 2001 NEADS NORAD FAA TAPES

Submitted by IWB, on September 11th, 2015

http://investmentwatchblog.com/911-...ntary-september-11-2001-neads-norad-faa-tapes
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Did you know? NIST did not follow standard fire investigation protocol:

Erik Lawyer – Firefighter: https://youtu.be/KsbbpUA9FHM
•Mr. Lawyer presents investigative directives from the National Fire Protection Standards Manual that were never followed by NIST or FEMA for the fires they claim caused all 3 WTC Buildings to collapse.


The Truth:

Danny Jowenko – Demolition Expert: https://youtu.be/0f4w8iJmn08
•Mr. Jowenko concludes that WTC 7 had to have been a controlled demolition without a doubt. (RIP)

9/11 Survivor Barry Jennings Uncut Interviews (WABC-TV, 2001, LC 2007): https://youtu.be/OmeY2vJ6ZoA
•Barry talks about the explosions in Building 7 and his escape from it after tying to enter the office of emergency management area on the 23rd floor. (RIP)


A man representing 2,350+ professionals appeared on C-SPAN to discuss the demolition evidence of 9/11 — it is now the most popular video on the site since then, and #6 all-time: http://www.c-span.org/video/?320748-5/washington-journal-architects-engineers-911-truth — 400,000 views

Some of the members:

Steven Dusterwald, S.E. – Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/I7oti6KGEf4

•Mr. Dusterwald presents contradictory evidence between the NIST model and the actual sequence of failures within all the WTC Buildings.

David Topete, MSCE, S.E. – Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/v9WB1A9j8f8

•Mr. Topete discusses how WTC Building 7’s column 79’s failure could not have caused the symmetrical and simultaneous collapse into it’s own footprint.

Casey Pfeiffer, S.E. – Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/V4y6cweaegI

•Mr. Pfeiffer provides a in-depth look at what actually happened to the top portions of the WTC towers prior to collapse and how WTC 7 could not have experienced simultaneous connector failure without the use of controlled demolition devices.

Kamal Obeid, C.E., S.E. – Civil/Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/3WCcSHpvAJ8

•Mr. Obeid, a 30-year structural engineer explains how NIST’s analysis actually disproves it’s own theories on how WTC Building 7 collapsed, thereby confirming the use of controlled demolition.

Ron Brookman S.E. – Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/TM_l_4sJ-sY

•Mr. Brookman discusses his direct inquiries with President Obama and NIST on NIST’s responsibility to find the cause of the collapse of WTC Building 7 and their responses.


They have been attempting to expose the fraud in the NIST reports, along with thousands of other professionals. Here are a few:

Bob Bowman PhD, Lt. Colonel (ret.):

https://youtu.be/CROB5p-1GjE

•The former head of the Star Wars program under President Ford & Carter, has multiple engineering degrees and agrees that NIST is conducting a massive coverup. (RIP)

Lynn Margulis PhD:

https://youtu.be/O0fkDmi78Og

•1999 Presidential Medal of Science award winner and Carl Sagan’s first wife, Lynn Margulis, provides crucial rules and elements within an investigative scientific analysis to procure an accepted hypotheses vs. what’s depicted in the NIST report. (RIP)

Rudy Dent, 9/11 survivor and former Fire Marshall:

https://youtu.be/nQrpLp-X0ws

•32 year veteran of NYC fire department and the NYPD Rudy Dent, speaks about his incredible first hand experience of the lies surrounding WTC 7 and gives his professional opinion on the destruction of the buildings with his experience as a Fire Marshall.


Another prominent member from this group is:

Richard Humenn P.E. – WTC Chief Electrical Design Engineer: https://youtu.be/gJy7lhVK2xE

•Mr. Humenn gives us quite a unique perspective inside the elevator shafts in the twin towers and how access to the core columns could have been gained.

Click here for their series of twenty-five provable points which clearly demonstrate that the reports produced by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on the destruction of the World Trade Center (WTC) were unscientific and fraudulent. Therefore NIST itself–including its lead authors, Shyam Sunder and John Gross–should be investigated.


Building 7 collapsed at 5:21 pm on 9-11-2001 – it was the first and only steel-framed skyscraper (fireproofed!) in world history to completely collapse because of fire.

The Smoking Gun: Free fall occurred in Building 7’s collapse for 2.25 seconds. NIST was attempting to cover this up, but a physics teacher called them out at the public draft hearing. Surprisingly, in its final report released in November 2008, NIST finally acknowledged free fall, but dishonestly placed it in bizarre framework that continues to deny its clear significance. This video series was created by the man who forced NIST to admit free fall occurred and displays the brazenness of the NIST WTC7 coverup.

•Part 1: http://youtu.be/Rkp-4sm5Ypc
•Part 2: http://youtu.be/iXTlaqXsm4k
•Part 3: http://youtu.be/v3mudruFzNw

More info: http://rememberbuilding7.org/free-fall-collapse/

credit: /u/DishonestCartooNISThttps://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3hzv84/the_911_faith_movement_yea_the_nist_report_sucked/cucaqvb

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Scibaer said:
why keep hitting a dead horse
Because fascist liars like BR think they have a lock down on Freedom.
And its not a dead horse....everything wrong with the USA nowadays stems from the 911 Coup d'état, dominates our national psyche and foreign policy, and you're likely one of those guys who wonder what happened to America, i.e. where did go wrong.? FYI,,,Approx. 2700 murders occurred on 9/11/01 and the perps are still running around.
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The revolution begins at 911 Truth....nothing will be right in America to the perps and liars are exposed...That should be self evident.
 

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here's what's self evident .. 9/11 happened, knowing now whom did it , doesnt matter. cant go back in time and stop them

alot of good people lost thier lives and thats a real shame but even if the gov. stood up and claimed they did it. we cant punish them

this not the first tragedy that has happened on US soil .. wont be the last either .. they all take thier toll on our psyche .. bellowing about the 9/11 incident over and over wont heal those wounds one bit

no "revolution" is going to happen.. not on a website , here or elsewhere

Because fascist liars like BR think they have a lock down on Freedom.

now, am i to understand you keep posting stuff about 9/11, because you think BR is a fascist ? and he somehow controls your freedom ??
in other words, if by reposting and rehashing 9/11 you somehow take back your freedom from BR ?

i dont know everything.. but that dont sound right. maybe its time to let those who died ( from the gov. implaced mini nuke or the high jacked planes.. it really dont matter ) rest in peace. let thier families heal ..

letting thing go, is not forgetting .. its healing.
 

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Scibaer...BR, self appointed official conspiracy theorist, doesn't control me, but seems like he controls you--puts you in the direction he likes or pulls wool over eyes. Imagine giving a pass to mass murders because its inconvenient or difficult.!
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IIRC,,,,,you're in governmentese of some sort. Doncha you remember in a government of Law we bring perps, criminals, serial killers to justice no matter the time span lest they continue to do harm, or lead the country astray, or continue working deceptions and crimes....
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Some things are just too big and horrid to give a pass,,,,,Funny thing is the most vocal of 911 Truthers happen to be a lot of 911 families who have a 911 Investigation petition circulating around.
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Just because you and BR want the whole sordid affair swept down the memory hole, doesn't mean the majority of moral Americans do.
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Scibaer said:
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here's what's self evident .. 9/11 happened, knowing now whom did it , doesnt matter. cant go back in time and stop them

alot of good people lost thier lives and thats a real shame but even if the gov. stood up and claimed they did it. we cant punish them
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That makes an unbelievable statement.
 

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BR does not control me, pull me in any direction at all

what you dont seem to grasp is, the fact that because i dont buy into what your offering, does not mean that i buy into what BR is offering either .. its not one or the other ..

you seem to think i need you or BR or whomever to do my thinking for me.. or my research for me ..
rest assured i dont ... but i will listen , and i did. now ive moved forward

so, im not moral, because i dont hang on to the ghosts of events passed ? thats crap and a manipulation
 

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TM7 said:
Scibaer...BR, self appointed official conspiracy theorist, doesn't control me, but seems like he controls you--puts you in the direction he likes or pulls wool over eyes. Imagine giving a pass to mass murders because its inconvenient or difficult.!
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IIRC,,,,,you're in governmentese of some sort. Doncha you remember in a government of Law we bring perps, criminals, serial killers to justice no matter the time span lest they continue to do harm, or lead the country astray, or continue working deceptions and crimes....
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Some things are just too big and horrid to give a pass,,,,,Funny thing is the most vocal of 911 Truthers happen to be a lot of 911 families who have a 911 Investigation petition circulating around.
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Just because you and BR want the whole sordid affair swept down the memory hole, doesn't mean the majority of moral Americans do.
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NO, TM. Unlike you, I happen to know a little about the subject -- enough to know that you and your ilk are either liars or ignorant fools.

Still waiting for your source on those "shaped-charge micro-nukes".
 

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BR does not control me, pull me in any direction at all

what you dont seem to grasp is, the fact that because i dont buy into what your offering, does not mean that i buy into what BR is offering either .. its not one or the other ..

you seem to think i need you or BR or whomever to do my thinking for me.. or my research for me ..
rest assured i dont ... but i will listen , and i did. now ive moved forward

so, im not moral, because i dont hang on to the ghosts of events passed ? thats crap and a manipulation
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Yeah well, no need to get misshapen or distort what I wrote which is BR's objective..If you don't like the topic , just avoid it. Just remember there is no statute of limitations on murder and mass murder for the perps (and their accomplices, BR).
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And there is no statute of limitations on historical review or to change the course we are no on.. Truth fears no investigation.
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Yeah BR.....like you know the several kinds of nuclear reactions... ::) Really BR,,,,you and the Bush neocons made so many mistakes you're appearing to be worse than any Nazi era psychotics.
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Yeah BR.....like you know the several kinds of nuclear reactions... ::) Really BR,,,,you and the Bush neocons made so many mistakes you're appearing to be worse than any Nazi era psychotics.
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Says the loser who still can't produce a source for his fictional "shaped-charge micro-nukes".

I repeat my question. Have you ever passed ANY course that required a formal paper complete with source citations?

I didn't think so. All you have is allegations and insults.
 

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yada-yada-yada, BR.
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Sure nuke detonations are typically spherical.....its the blast wave that is shaped....as in the bathtub structure at Ground Zero or in lower confines of massive inner core and bedrock would shape a blast wave and heat...

However, we're talking small fusion type 4th gen clean weapons well beyond old timer hasbeens like yourself having any knowledge
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Just look at the vaporization of the radio-tv tower on the tower as the inner core under it vaporized.....that tower itself was vaporized.....
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And once again, our resident Conspiracy Freak shovels out great loads of unsupported BS.

Do a little honest research, rather than listening to the Art Bells.
Don't feed the troll, wait, I guess this whole area is an asylum for trolls so let them have it, to themselves.
 

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Glad you post these things TM7! The more info the better. I would like to believe all was an evil act against us poor old Americans by those nasty MOOSLIMS. Tiz unfortunate so much evidence does not support it. The world is a dangerous place and those who support the standard 9/11 BS make it even more so.
 

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Glad you post these things TM7! The more info the better. I would like to believe all was an evil act against us poor old Americans by those nasty MOOSLIMS. Tiz unfortunate so much evidence does not support it. The world is a dangerous place and those who support the standard 9/11 BS make it even more so.
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I know. And these perps will do it again and again and again if not called. On their 911 caper they were very very sloppy and left a trail a mile wide. Even bomber trolls like BR can't cover that trail of crime and mass murder; of course he's very inept and lacks eloquence and finess.
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TM7 said:
Plenty said:
Glad you post these things TM7! The more info the better. I would like to believe all was an evil act against us poor old Americans by those nasty MOOSLIMS. Tiz unfortunate so much evidence does not support it. The world is a dangerous place and those who support the standard 9/11 BS make it even more so.
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I know. And these perps will do it again and again and again if not called. On their 911 caper they were very very sloppy and left a trail a mile wide. Even bomber trolls like BR can't cover that trail of crime and mass murder; of course he's very inept and lacks eloquence and finess.
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..TM7
And once again, TM spews insults and slander rather than providing genuine sources to back up his BS.

If that isn't SOP for a troll, what is?
 

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TM7 said:
Plenty said:
Glad you post these things TM7! The more info the better. I would like to believe all was an evil act against us poor old Americans by those nasty MOOSLIMS. Tiz unfortunate so much evidence does not support it. The world is a dangerous place and those who support the standard 9/11 BS make it even more so.
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I know. And these perps will do it again and again and again if not called. On their 911 caper they were very very sloppy and left a trail a mile wide. Even bomber trolls like BR can't cover that trail of crime and mass murder; of course he's very inept and lacks eloquence and finess.
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..TM7
And once again, TM spews insults and slander rather than providing genuine sources to back up his BS.

If that isn't SOP for a troll, what is?
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Hey goombah..define 'genuine source' .. In first post there's 20 or more sources with 100x more ed degrees than you.
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There is far too much evidence by credible sources to deny this wasn't some sort of an inside job. Those who protest and resort to name calling, dismissal of evidence presented when it is from educated and intelligent sources only shows they have something to hide. One of the biggest questions I have is where is the video showing the plane hitting the Pentagon/ This is one of the most secure buildings in America with countless cameras. NOT A SINGLE VIDEO HAS EVER BEEN SHOWN OF ANYTHING HITTING THAT BUILDING. That along with the impact pictures of that building is enough to make any sane person question what really went on.
REPEATEDLY our government has run experiments on its own people with in its own borders and observed the results. The results have often been death. They have also done it to our soldiers with them being aware! The C.I.A. operates with in our borders when THAT is the jurisdiction of the F.B.I. In doing so we,as American citizens, have every right to question and demand FULL and unquestionable proof and answers to the incident referred to as 9/11!
 
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