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Hello to you all, this is my first posting here and have a question for the groups expertise.
Who was the baddest of the old west gunfighters assuming skill at arms and body count would be the major factors in choosing?
Hardin, Hickok, Earp are all names that are large in history, who have I forgotten?
 

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That's easy John Welsey Hardin
 

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:-D I got so carried away that I knew an answer, I for got that its a two part question!, I guess it's true that history DOES repeat itself, I did the same thing in school.

James Brothers
Dalton Brothers
I don't remember Butch and Sundances real names
Bill Tillghman
 

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For body count it is John Wesley Hardin. He was also one of the most skilled with a handgun. From what I have read "Wild Bill" Hickok was also as skilled with a handgun but he had no where near the body count of Hardin. The one with the worst disposition was Doc Holiday.
Two interesting books are John Wesley Hardin Texas Gunman by Nordyke, also A Dynasty of Western Outlaws by Paul Wellman.
 

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I'll just add a few books to the recommended reading list:

Encyclopedia of Western Gunfighters - Bill O'Neal
Famous Gun fighters of the Western Frontier - W.B. (Bat) Masterson
The Badman of the West - George Hendricks
The Legend Makers - Henry Sinclair Drago
Triggernometry, A Gallery of Gunfighters - Eugene Cunningham
The Gunfighter, Man or Myth? - Joseph G. Rosa
The Shooters - Leon Claire Metz
 

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Some little known Texas history.

Although not one who I would categorize as a “gunfighter”, one of the most vicious revenge killers I’ve run across was William S. (Scott) Cooley. He was a prominent participant in the relatively obscure Mason County War (also known as the Hoo Doo War). One of his sidekicks during this bloodletting was John Ringo of later Tombstone fame. A historian friend of mine is responsible for the two-part account at the following URLs.

http://www.texfiles.com/texashistory/hoodoowar.htm
http://www.texfiles.com/texashistory/hoodoowar2.htm
 

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Old West Gunfighters

Many thanks for the comments!
Interestingly I found most of Hardins biography online at several Texas oriented sites (insert Texas joke here) and surfed into an old newspaper aticle about Mark Twain traveling to Salt Lake City to meet Americas most renowned gunfighter Orrin Porter Rockwell. Some reports claim Rockwell killed over 150 people, I stayed up till the wee hours last nite reading and I hope I can retrace my path again later.
Rockwell regularly carried several high capacity leverguns, a brace of pistols and an interesting invention of his for "CQB" the Whippet. The Whippet was a sawed off 10ga double barrel carried on a strap around one shoulder under a coat.
 

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Old West, Capt. Cox-

Why yes sir you are correct, something about "blood" something or other was in several links.
In todays jargon OPR was a bad mofo! Which brings to mind another topic for another forum, " what the heck has happened to our language"??
What? No comments about a double barreled 10 gauge?
 

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Capt Hamp Cox,sir,I think the LDS(Mormon)"Destroying Angel"was Porter Rockwell.There was a great movie about him with Charlton Heston as Brigham Young and Tom Barringer as Porter Rockwell,I think.BASIC
 

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Well thanks for the bump Capt Cox, the cobwebs are growing rapidly here.
BTW, isn't the correct word Shottist as opposed to Shootist?
I seem to remember Colonel Cooper mentioning the difference some years back, possibly in an old Gunsite Gossip?
 

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Jeff Cooper's Commentaries
Previously Gunsite Gossip
Vol. 4, No. 5 April, 1996

I have been somewhat amused at the spate of indignation I have aroused by insisting that the proper word is "shottist" rather than "shootist". Several people have leafed through a series of dictionaries to tell me that I am wrong about this. Apparently it is a matter of English-English versus American-English. I have been presented on two occasions to audiences in Great Britain and in South Africa as a shottist, and I assume that a proper English language dictionary would support me in this. Our British cousins spell color with a "u" and refer to a fender as a wing. Other examples will occur to you. Personally I prefer shottist, but it appears that I cannot insist upon that.
 

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Indignation??

Not me hoss, I was simply making conversation. Maybe I shoulda inserted one of them giggling smiley faces?
Spate of indignation???
Don't tell me that people actually emailed ya over the comment? I reread the thread searching for the spate of indignation but??
GRIN-Smile-LMAO!
 

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That Was-

Orrin Porter Rockwell I meant to insert as the Avenging Angel, one of the Four Horsemen Statues outside SLC.
Porter was unmatched and immune to gunfire as foretold by his mentor Joe Smith as long as Porters locks were never cut.
 

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That whole "Spate of indignation" quote is from a Cooper column subsequent to the one you referred to. I was just providing it to show that it appeared he had softened his original position somewhat. Evidently he caught some flack and was responding to same. I just report the news, I don't make it. Just don't call me a "Shoutist".
 
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