After Years of Playing With H & R,s. Iver Johnson's,Rugers,Jefferies, and a lot of misc single shots. I think "Rimbo" is on to something. The Rimmed cases!!! i m tired of working rimless loads up to get away from the FTF problems. etc. maybe i m just getting old & cranky. But any more I say Phooey & Poopey a lot more than i did!?!?!?