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A while back I posted a thread concerning the best products to prevent rust and corrosion in black powder arms during stoage and in the field.

Based on the responses I got, I took many of the suggestions and gave them a try. Some didn't work out too well for a variety of reasons from losing the predicabilty of first, cold and clean, first shot accuracy and dependability, to flat out not doing what I was trying to find. ALL were appreciated and taken seriously. Thanks to everyone who offered help.

Two products, readily available, were very good at stopping bore corrosion, and the one I finally settled on was simply amazing in it's ability to prevent rust during long term storage, in between shooting time short term storage, and maintaining first shot accuracy not only in muzzleloaders, but in modern cartridge guns as well.

Ballistol turned out to be versatile in a variety of ways, from stopping rust anywhere I tried it, to the ability to be applied as a patched ball lube. The problem with this very old concoction was NOT in it's performance at all. It was the "fragrance" that irrated both my sinus' and throat. Once dry, it has no odor.


Bichwood Casey's Barricade for me is the overall winner. You clean as you always would, dry the bore completely, then run a very lightly wet patch with the Barricade through the bore, use the same dampened cleaning patch a second time, and give it time to dry and it's complete. When you are ready to go to the range, or into the field to hunt, you're set. No reason to "remove" the Barricade, it does not alter the POI at all, unless you went overboard with the dampened patch, and even then, no more than MOA on the fouling round.

The final test was yesterday. I got my first groundhog of the year with my 17 HMR at 120 yds, not super long range, but for the first shot of the year out of the rifle, and straight from the safe to the field with not so much as a patch pushed through the bore, that first cold, clean, shot impacted the base of the neck EXACTLY where it should have. It did the same thing in the flintlock at the rifle range a number of times also.

I'm posting these results to say thank you to all those who offered up their help.:tango_face_smile:
 

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quickdtoo, I've seen a few of those tests before, and everytime I marvel at the effectivness of that Eezox. Truely an amazing protectant. It was mentioned in the thread I put up by a few guys, but I had some difficulty getting some in my area. I also remember hearing about some sort of toxicity associated with it, but was unable to confirm or deny it.

The big thing for me concerning Barricade is not only the way it prevents rust so effiviently, but allowed for cold, clean bore, first shot accuracy with no extra steps necesary. That was something that I hadn't managed before. Does the Eezox afford you the same first shot accuracy? Never having had any to try I never had the oppurtunity to learn about it.

As the saying goes, "If it ain't broke don't fix it!", and I'm certainly not suggesting anyone leave a method that works for him/her! Thanks for the input about Eezox, it could be just the thing soomeone having a difficult time with preventing bore corrosion is looking for!
 

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I've never noticed an issue with first shot accuracy, Eezox dries after application as long as it's applied correctly, so it isn't wet like other oils, doesn't have to be wiped out before shooting, so it's always there to protect as well.

Tim

https://www.eezox.com/how-to-use
 

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for black powder substitutes i use a natural based lanolin spray called Fluid Film.use to be hard to find but now Lowes and Autozone have it. works on patches sticks to metal and doesnt dry out for months. for my BlackHorn 209 eatin muzzys i use CLP or FP-10. i like that they work as an all in one cleaner and lube.too many good products out there today.
 

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My curiousity is sort of up with Eezox, has a lot going for it. Definately will keep an eye open for a sample to try out. Nothing succeeds like sucess!

As for the fluid film, I really don't use much in the way of black powder substitutes, except in the T/C Thunderhawk we have. It LOVES Pyrodex, but the barrel is stainless steel, and I've never had an issue with it. Nat Lube Bore butter has so far ben all we needed for it. I will keep the information in mind and will pass kit along if that situation arrises! Thank you!
 

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I have been using Eezox for about 15 year, recommended to me as a bore treatment from a benchrest guy. It is incredible stuff and the only thing I use inside a bore unless I need to remove copper for some reason, which is generally only at new. As stated Eezox dries and leaves a lubricating, protection barrier.

I do not like the odor of Eezox so I try to use it outdoors when I can. Barricade is excellent also and I use that, but more on the outside of guns than in the barrel, has better smell but just as toxic or more than Eezox. I use a moose milk with Ballistol as a patched ball dry lube for my flintlock.

Didn't know they made a 17 HMR in a traditional muzzleloader format...
 

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I'm hearing of more and more anti-rust remedies as time goes on. bigblock 455's Frontier is a brand new one on me, but that test for over a year is, well, very impressive long term protection! I'm really glad you brought that one to our attention.

buckskin, thanks for letting me know your experiences with Barricade and Eezox. Really amazing stuff, all three of them! As for the "17 HMR traditional muzzleloader", I got a kick out of that one. That rifle was one of several moderns that I hunt with in various seasons, and I brought it up as my findings of Barricade performing as hoped across the muzzleloader/modern spectrum. Just an FYI:
I discovered that Hoppes Elite Gun Cleaner applied with a cleaning patch and given a half hour dwell time does a pretty good job of eliminating copper fouling. Several dri patches to clear it from the bore before the Barricade and it's all good.

Thank you both gentlemen for sharing those products which you found so effective!
 

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I have been using Eezox for about 15 year, recommended to me as a bore treatment from a benchrest guy. It is incredible stuff and the only thing I use inside a bore unless I need to remove copper for some reason, which is generally only at new. As stated Eezox dries and leaves a lubricating, protection barrier.

I do not like the odor of Eezox so I try to use it outdoors when I can. Barricade is excellent also and I use that, but more on the outside of guns than in the barrel, has better smell but just as toxic or more than Eezox. I use a moose milk with Ballistol as a patched ball dry lube for my flintlock.

Didn't know they made a 17 HMR in a traditional muzzleloader format...
^^^ ^^^ Please read post # 10
 
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