Has anyone seen any reviews of the new S&W? I would think the recoil must be horrendous. Given that the 454 and 480 are about all that's needed for really big game with a handgun, what niche does the 500 fill?
:grin: For S&W fans it's a big bore to compete with the 454 and 480!
It looks just like anyother S&W revolver, and probably has a better trigger out of the box than any Ruger.
For me it's great! I can't wait to get my hands on one. As far as power goes anything you can kill with a 454 or 480 has and will be killed with the 44. So where's the niche for them?
I just read an article, some democrat in ill. is trying to get the 500 S&W banned. He probably has stock in Ruger or Freedom Arms! ( Just kidding.)
Anyway I've held off getting a 454 or 480, hoping S&W would come out with one. Well they went a little further with their 500 and that's ok by me.
I will buy one, to be sure. I'm tired of hearing how much stronger Rugers and Freedom Arms are. It's a Smith & Wesson, that's niche enough for me!
The new management at S&W has done NOTHING to remove the agreement from their shoulders. Even with a willing White House who would almost assuredly agree to make it null and void IF ONLY S&W would petition them to do so.
BUT THEY HAVEN'T! No action has been taken on this agreement which in effect said S&W would unilaterally give away the Constitutional Rights of ALL US Citizens in return for favors to be granted it by the Klinton adminstration which were in violation of federal law. Soon the old owners found that the Klintion adminstration wasn't going to live up to any of its end of the bargain but was gonna hold S&W's feet to the fire on their part of it.
This caused the bankruptcy of S&W and the eventual sale to an American firm.
BUT the new owners have done NOTHING to have the agreement voided. The status of it is NOT DEAD as so many are assuming. It is merely on hold until the next democrap takes office at which time it will be resurrected like Phoenix from the fire and will once again be held over the heads of the new owners of S&W and of all gun owners across the country.
Folks if you forget this and kiss and make up with S&W and let them continue as is under the Bush administration you will see the error of your ways when next a democrap holds the office. This cannot be let stand. If the new owners do not care enough to ask the Bush administration for permanent relieve then S&W still MUST DIE!
Those who give aid and comfort to the enemy are themselves the enemy. Have you already forgotten that lesson from history? Must we repeat it because you have forgotten?
S&W has always made nice guns, but give me a freaking break! They have no clue what they are doing to OUR RIGHTS!
I'm not, by ANY means, saying that Smith and Wesson guns are superior to any others, but I would rather have a gun that doesn't have a perfect triger pull or has an extra .5 inch group at 50 yards than support a company that is crapping on me and my rights as a gun owner.
Yes Rudy I understand but I honestly have no straight answer for you.
First it will NOT be more powerful or even as powerful as the .454 Casull. Bigger isn't always better. No I've not seen any reviews and because of S&Ws status as traitor to all that America stands for I'll not read one even if I get a magazine with one.
What niche will it fill? Well the only one I can see is that folks who just can't own anything else and want a larger than .44 mag. round will fall all over themselves to get one. I honestly can see no other.
I Agree with GB... I don's se eit being more powerfull, but we'll see. as for the kick. Is it ported? would you get it ported? if not, it won't be as loud, but it will make a significant difference in recoil.
I think it's worth discussing on its own merits, regardless of who makes it. I saw the pictures and it looks to me like a one-upmanship of even the most powerful of the Linebaugh cartridges, although the guns made to shoot it don't seem to be competing with the Linebaugh guns in the size.
My own sentiments are that when a handgun starts to weigh close to five pounds, I may as well be carrying a rifle. That's where I part company with my colleagues who don't seem to mind Encores, 14" contenders and the like.
I like the 454 and 480 Ruger concept because it still fits into a reasonable sized handgun. The long barrelled Raging Bull is too big for my tastes, but I kinda like the 6 inch barrelled model. I don't care for the 8" S&W 629, but the 6" barrel is a big favorite of mine.
I think it'll be interesting to see what's done with the 500. I don't see any practical reason to down load it for anything. I think it's going to be in a niche where maximum loads only are used.
As far as sales go, I think they'll sell about like the early 44 magnums and the .50 Desert Eagle: Lots of guys want the biggest and most powerful. At under a grand, S&W is probably going to have a considerable backlog of work before they catch up with demand.
Anybody got an application for this new gun? Why do you find it attractive?
:shock: if it is able to put out almost 2600lb/ft of energy, how then is it not as powerful as the ALMIGHTY CASSUL? by my limited powers of reckoning that is a rather formidable cartridge, regardless of who makes the gun.
Realistically, what's the recoil going to be like with something like this? It's not that I'm a stranger to strong recoil in handguns, but I've met a few guys with fused hand bones, with the fusing attributable to years of shooting heavy recoiling handguns. This is not something I want for myself.
The potential of this gun for, say, cape buffalo and elephant is very interesting. Much more interesting that, say, a 375 JDJ, because it's a repeater instead of a single shot.
I am a BIG S&W fan and agree with most of what you say, BUT, Bill Ruger himself sold us out, or at least tried, with his stance and succumbing to the Brady bill, HI-cap mags etc, when he stated he didn't think there was a useful purpose for them! He annoyed me then, as much as S&W did for bowing to the K-Klan (Klintons). I think he was even on the side of favoring a semi-auto pistol ban? Just my thoughts. They're all in bed when they can be!
2600 + ft/lbs of energy? I thought the casull had a little kick. you are going to have to have a 10 pound revolver to compensate for the radius snapping recoil. Hey, you might as well buy a long gun at that weight.
p.s. My gun addiction is so fierce that I will probably buy a gun in this caliber in the future, but I won't shoot it much.
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