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Just saw on CBS that PA approved the Saturday deer opener. Times sure are a changing in the Commonwealth huh? Hopefully more kids and working folks will be able to get out now.
 

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Michigan's traditional deer rifle season opens on November 15, been that way "forever". Way back in the late 60's or early 70's they tried a Saturday opener for 2 or 3 years and it didn't go over very well so they switched back to Nov. 15th.

I'm not sure why it wasn't popular, but I can remember that opening day was even more of a madhouse than than usual, just like when the 15th falls on a Saturday. Whenever the opener falls on a Saturday there is an overabundance of "one and a half day hunters". Friday afternoon traffic is frenzied, the woods on Saturday sounds like WWIII, about noon on Sunday the mass exodus starts, and on Monday if you're in the woods you can hear a pin drop! Takes 2 or 3 days for the deer to resume anything normal movement.

At least that's been my experience.

It's sad to say but I think there's some "hunters" who don't like a Saturday opener because they mainly go to deer camp to drink and play cards and would prefer their kids in school rather than taking them to deer camp, which would crimp their "style"!
 

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. . .It's sad to say but I think there's some "hunters" who don't like a Saturday opener because they mainly go to deer camp to drink and play cards and would prefer their kids in school rather than taking them to deer camp, which would crimp their "style"!
^ ^ ^ ^ ^THIS couldn't be any more true for every state ^ ^ ^

the way i've seen some "hunters" behave, it's a dang wonder there's
any place anywhere to go hunt any more
 

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I've owned my camp and the property I hunt for 35 years. I used to invite a half dozen guys in my younger days and we carried on just as you guys are saying. I've only had a handful of guests over the last 15 years, but mostly only me at camp now. Still a pretty good party at my place with the locals the Saturday before the opener. Sunday I recover, eat three good meals, and get ready for Monday morning. I sure don't miss feeling like crap opening day.
 

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around my place we don't see nearly the people or hear the shooting like we used to. the first day is really quiet, the first Saturday is like the old first days.
 

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Much the same here in Michigan nowadays jiminpa. Nowhere near the "invasion" of the woods there was decades ago on opening day. And now when it opens on a Saturday you can tell there is a bit more activity than a weekday opener, but nothing compared to days of old.
 

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around my place we don't see nearly the people or hear the shooting like we used to. the first day is really quiet, the first Saturday is like the old first days.
^ ^ ^ that's great^ ^
count your blessings. most of the places i've hunted the
last decade or so, the magazines dumps start around
9 or 10 o'clock. after i get through being mad about it,
i laugh and call it "the new glock test"

just me- i never could figure anyone that got "bored"
being out hunting,fishing, or camping
 

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Saturday opener will have its plus and minus. Camp hunters would no longer use Saturday and Sunday as their scouting and set up days for the Monday opener. But, It will provide the working man and youth an extra day. This will force many to do their "scouting" at an earlier date. This should provide more hunters in the woods on opening day.
 

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Pretty much here in Pa we have cry babies covering the state that dont seem to understand that a Saturday opener is a good thing for younger hunters that cant get off work to deer hunt.:tango_face_crying:

These guys are at a disadvantage by having to wait for that first weekend, and while I am sure some manage to tag one, a great many more are plauged with the older deer becoming fully aware the season is on. The antler restrictions statewide make it even more difficult to harvest a legal animal.:tango_face_surprise

The Junior hunters get to forego the restrictions, as do the disabled hunters with a shoot from vehicle permit, thank GOD for that, but the rest have spikes, three and four point deer parading by, unable to fill a tag because they are "protected" deer.:tango_face_plain:

Obviously I agree with the Pa Saturday opener for the stated reason, and wish the antler restrictions would be eliminated. :tango_face_smile:

Just my opinion, and thats like a nose, almost everyone has one.:)
 

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Pretty much here in Pa we have cry babies covering the state that dont seem to understand that a Saturday opener is a good thing for younger hunters that cant get off work to deer hunt.:tango_face_crying:

These guys are at a disadvantage by having to wait for that first weekend, and while I am sure some manage to tag one, a great many more are plauged with the older deer becoming fully aware the season is on. The antler restrictions statewide make it even more difficult to harvest a legal animal.:tango_face_surprise

The Junior hunters get to forego the restrictions, as do the disabled hunters with a shoot from vehicle permit, thank GOD for that, but the rest have spikes, three and four point deer parading by, unable to fill a tag because they are "protected" deer.:tango_face_plain:

Obviously I agree with the Pa Saturday opener for the stated reason, and wish the antler restrictions would be eliminated. :tango_face_smile:

Just my opinion, and thats like a nose, almost everyone has one.:)
I hated the antler restrictions the first few years, but we are definitely killing better bucks pretty regularly now. I find myself passing on bucks that would have been considered trophies before antler restrictions. Antlerless tags are pretty plentiful in most zones now, so a hunter can get meat if that's what he's after. I wouldn't have a problem with you old farts shooting scrub bucks if that's what you want.:tango_face_grin:
 

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Season in Wisconsin opens the Saturday before Thanksgiving, I can't say it always has but it's been that way for the 50 years I've hunted. I see less hunters opening weekend then I did 30+ years ago but still a lot of hunters. On Monday you have the woods to yourself. You used to see orange dotting the landscape all week sun up till sundown, not anymore, our 9 day season is pretty much over in two days. Only the diehards (include me) hunt the full nine.
 

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I hated the antler restrictions the first few years, but we are definitely killing better bucks pretty regularly now. I find myself passing on bucks that would have been considered trophies before antler restrictions. Antlerless tags are pretty plentiful in most zones now, so a hunter can get meat if that's what he's after. I wouldn't have a problem with you old farts shooting scrub bucks if that's what you want.:tango_face_grin:
Hey Neckisred! I kind of chuckled at the "old fart" comment.:tango_face_smile: cant get angry when its true!:tango_face_surprise

Fact is as you stated, doe tags are there, some guys, like you I guess, like horns. I dont have a problem with that, or the seniors being equal oppurtunity hunters either.:tango_face_wink: Sounds like a good idea

Just for the FYI portion, this old man isnt bound by those pesky antler restrictions because he has a shoot from vehicle,(Pa calls it use a vehicle as a blind), but it doesnt mean I use it, or plan to use it for "scrub bucks" either.:tango_face_surprise just saying.

Thought you might find it interesting that someone just might be glad for someone else...:tango_face_grin:YES, have at it newbies on that Saturday opener.
 

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Just a little misunderstanding. A lot is lost in text. I'm a meat hunter. Always have been, always will be. I take as many doe as I legally can in PA and those tags are $26.75 each for a non resident landowner such as myself. Having the opportunity to take a few doe for meat, gives me the opportunity to pass on smaller legal bucks that hopefully make it another season. If someone else takes a smaller buck that I have passed on, good for them.


I am fortunate enough to hunt every day of rifle season and all of muzzleloader season, so I can be selective. I'm far from being a horn hunter, but who doesn't like taking a nice buck? Never been one to criticize anyone for taking whatever deer they choose to take. Seeing young hunters and old guys take a deer is far more of a thrill than taking any deer myself.


The Saturday opener just means I leave for camp a day earlier. I hunt the Ohio/PA border, so I get the Saturday opener in PA and the Monday opener in Ohio. Win win for me and hopefully lots of youngsters and working folks who don't get much time off.
 

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No problems on my end, Neckisred, I understand,agree with, and respect your opinions. You are very right about things getting a little mixed up in the text. Another on the site suggested I use imogees to help get the intention across, and I think it helps a lot.:tango_face_smile:

Thanks for the response, it is well recieved.:)
 
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