Can anyone tell me when my Savage 99 was manufactured? The ser. # is 1027144.
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Savage 99 dates of manufacture
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Schnable forend,rotary mag.and a lever safety on mine.
Piney,Piney said:
According to Murray's book serial numbers 19,000 thru 200,000 were model 1899-F's made from 1899 to 1919. You don't say what caliber so will list them:
1899- .303 Savage
1900- .30-30 available
1903- .25-35, .32-40, .38-55 added
barrel: 20 inch only
Buttstock- Straight grip carbine-type. P/G available (to 1911).
Buttplate- Steel carbine-type
Piney...
Savage Arms introduced the .300 Savage cartridge in 1920, but according to the information I have, a rifle with a 41XXX serial number was made in 1904. So we have a "mystery" here which is NOT at all unusual when it comes to trying to date Savage Model 99 rifles. :?
Sorry that I could not be of more help to you.
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Savage Arms introduced the .300 Savage cartridge in 1920, but according to the information I have, a rifle with a 41XXX serial number was made in 1904. So we have a "mystery" here which is NOT at all unusual when it comes to trying to date Savage Model 99 rifles. :?
Sorry that I could not be of more help to you.
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Piney,
Let's see if we can get a little more information and go by other things rather than the serial number........just assuming there is a missing digit in that s/n.....ps. remove forearm for possible stampings.
Now, get out the notebook and start:
barrel length and (contour lightweight or std.)
List all stampings on barrel and receiver and location
Describe Forearm (schnoble or rounded tip)
Finish.....oiled/checkered, or lacquer
Buttstock finish and pistolgrip?
Buttplate: Steel or Aluminum and type of embossing
Sights: Drilled receiver for scope? Front and rear (and check out Savage99.com Site to see photos)
Safety: on lever or tang?
OK, go to work!!!!!!!
Jim
Let's see if we can get a little more information and go by other things rather than the serial number........just assuming there is a missing digit in that s/n.....ps. remove forearm for possible stampings.
Now, get out the notebook and start:
barrel length and (contour lightweight or std.)
List all stampings on barrel and receiver and location
Describe Forearm (schnoble or rounded tip)
Finish.....oiled/checkered, or lacquer
Buttstock finish and pistolgrip?
Buttplate: Steel or Aluminum and type of embossing
Sights: Drilled receiver for scope? Front and rear (and check out Savage99.com Site to see photos)
Safety: on lever or tang?
OK, go to work!!!!!!!
Jim
1. First off the serial # is 41xxxx (left off 1 digit)
2. Forearm removed the number 2 bottom of barrel near breech - on forearm wood 416 over 355 on round that fits to breech
3. barrel stamping - top of barrel Savage Arms Corporation under it Utica N.Y. -Right side barrel high pressure steel proof tested - Left side barrel .300 Savage sp in an oval - barrel length 23" to ring 24" to breech
4. receiver stamping -Savage 99 on top of receiver ring - Ser # bottom receiver - and .3 stamped front side barrel lever boss
5. Forearm schnoble - oil/checkered
6. buttstock oil/checkered - pistol grip
7. Buttplate - steel - letters sVg
8. safety on tang? safety locks into lever
9. receiver drilled with 2 holes behind safety indicator
2. Forearm removed the number 2 bottom of barrel near breech - on forearm wood 416 over 355 on round that fits to breech
3. barrel stamping - top of barrel Savage Arms Corporation under it Utica N.Y. -Right side barrel high pressure steel proof tested - Left side barrel .300 Savage sp in an oval - barrel length 23" to ring 24" to breech
4. receiver stamping -Savage 99 on top of receiver ring - Ser # bottom receiver - and .3 stamped front side barrel lever boss
5. Forearm schnoble - oil/checkered
6. buttstock oil/checkered - pistol grip
7. Buttplate - steel - letters sVg
8. safety on tang? safety locks into lever
9. receiver drilled with 2 holes behind safety indicator
piney,
The Utica, NY produced style 8 M99's produced from s/n 332,000 - 438,000 from 1930 - 1946. From your description of these features (you really have to loosen-up with a few more numbers on the s/n!!). I tried using Savage99.com's site to get an estimate of the year of mfg. but it wont accept 41,XXXX, or 41X,XXX.....just try substituting the last two digits and try that. I believe you may have a model EG in .300Savage w/ 24" med weight barrel. Do the forearm and buttstock have serial numbers matching?
Just remember as with all American gun mfgs. that civilian production was shut-down during the WWII war. Then 1946, production was shifted to Chicopee Falls, Mass. The buttplate "sVg" was produced from s/n 292,500 in 1926 to 416,000 in 1941.
Jim
The Utica, NY produced style 8 M99's produced from s/n 332,000 - 438,000 from 1930 - 1946. From your description of these features (you really have to loosen-up with a few more numbers on the s/n!!). I tried using Savage99.com's site to get an estimate of the year of mfg. but it wont accept 41,XXXX, or 41X,XXX.....just try substituting the last two digits and try that. I believe you may have a model EG in .300Savage w/ 24" med weight barrel. Do the forearm and buttstock have serial numbers matching?
Just remember as with all American gun mfgs. that civilian production was shut-down during the WWII war. Then 1946, production was shifted to Chicopee Falls, Mass. The buttplate "sVg" was produced from s/n 292,500 in 1926 to 416,000 in 1941.
Jim
Piney...
Ahhhhhhh sooooo... 41X,XXX, now that is a different story.
As SavageT suggested, another number in that serial number would help, but according to my records, 416,000 was made in 1941... and 416000+ was made in 1942.
Savage claims no rifles were made during WW II, but there is proof this claim is inaccurate. However, production during the WW2 was truly very, very limited.
I'm beginning to think (like SavageT) that you might have what is called a "late model EG". The early model EG's didn't have any checkering. However, both models had a schnoble "nose" on their forearms.
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Ahhhhhhh sooooo... 41X,XXX, now that is a different story.
As SavageT suggested, another number in that serial number would help, but according to my records, 416,000 was made in 1941... and 416000+ was made in 1942.
Savage claims no rifles were made during WW II, but there is proof this claim is inaccurate. However, production during the WW2 was truly very, very limited.
I'm beginning to think (like SavageT) that you might have what is called a "late model EG". The early model EG's didn't have any checkering. However, both models had a schnoble "nose" on their forearms.
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Savage T - Ron T: You guys are some pretty good Savage detectives and I think you have pretty well nailed this. Went back over the gun looking for more clues and found on the front of the receiver (faintly stamped) the letters E - G. Yes, stock had numbers that matched forearm.
The rifle was inherited from my father-in-law at his passing. I have shot it and it shoots too high (can not adjust with current sights). I believe the front sight is too high (possibly not the right one,however original).
My belief is that this gun is kinda like the old Johnny Cash song (One piece at a time) they used what they had on hand at the time to make the gun.
Thanks for your help and time!
The rifle was inherited from my father-in-law at his passing. I have shot it and it shoots too high (can not adjust with current sights). I believe the front sight is too high (possibly not the right one,however original).
My belief is that this gun is kinda like the old Johnny Cash song (One piece at a time) they used what they had on hand at the time to make the gun.
Thanks for your help and time!
Piney,
Excellent work! Glad you were able to ID your treasure, and Thank You Ron T. for your important pointers.
About the 99's sights........If yours is shooting high, remember that everything works in reverse for a front sight...the higher the front sight the LOWER the point of impact. Is there a series of photos on www.Savage99.com of factory sights on your model99? I'd bet you have at one time replaced the rear sight and elevator rather than the front.......
Jim
Excellent work! Glad you were able to ID your treasure, and Thank You Ron T. for your important pointers.
About the 99's sights........If yours is shooting high, remember that everything works in reverse for a front sight...the higher the front sight the LOWER the point of impact. Is there a series of photos on www.Savage99.com of factory sights on your model99? I'd bet you have at one time replaced the rear sight and elevator rather than the front.......
Jim
I need more information in order to be able to help you determine the age and model of your .250-3000 caliber rifle (aka ".250 Savage").
A Lever Boss Code of "E" would indicate a 1953 Model. A Code of "F" would mean it was made in 1954. Use a magnifying glass and take a "hard" look at the lever boss. It may not have an oval on the lever boss.
Look on the top of the barrel near the rear sight, does it say, "Savage Arms Corporation, Chicopee Falls, Mass USA"? Savage moved their manufacturing to Chicopee Falls in 1946 and remained there until 1960 when they moved to their present facilities in Westfield, MA.
What's the serial number?
Does it have a schnoble forearm?
What's the barrel length?
Answer the above questions and I'll try to help you.
A Lever Boss Code of "E" would indicate a 1953 Model. A Code of "F" would mean it was made in 1954. Use a magnifying glass and take a "hard" look at the lever boss. It may not have an oval on the lever boss.
Look on the top of the barrel near the rear sight, does it say, "Savage Arms Corporation, Chicopee Falls, Mass USA"? Savage moved their manufacturing to Chicopee Falls in 1946 and remained there until 1960 when they moved to their present facilities in Westfield, MA.
What's the serial number?
Does it have a schnoble forearm?
What's the barrel length?
Answer the above questions and I'll try to help you.
Mfg Date
Ron T.,
Sorry I took so long to get back with you.
Here are the answers to your questions:
1. There is a scratch on the lever boss but I think the letter is an E.
2. It was made in Chicopee Falls.
3. Serial number is 677133.
4. The forearm is not a schnoble. It is rather blunt and slightly rounded.
5. The barrel is 24" long.
6. Calibre is 250-3000.
Ron T.,
Sorry I took so long to get back with you.
Here are the answers to your questions:
1. There is a scratch on the lever boss but I think the letter is an E.
2. It was made in Chicopee Falls.
3. Serial number is 677133.
4. The forearm is not a schnoble. It is rather blunt and slightly rounded.
5. The barrel is 24" long.
6. Calibre is 250-3000.
Texgun...
Sounds like you might have a later model "R" with a semi-beavertail forearm with a blunt tip and checkered side panels. The Model Rs were made from 1932-1960.
Your serial number puts the date of manufacturer in either 1952 or 1953. However, the surest method of identifying the year of manufacture is by correctly identifying the Lever Boss Code.
The Lever Boss Code "letter" should be inside an small OVAL together with one or two inspector's numbers in front of the Lever Boss Code's letter on the front side of the lever boss. If it is, in fact, a letter "E", then 1953 is the year your rifle was made. Unfortunately, this "Code" letter was stamped very light... and it may not be possible to read.
There are a few other ways you might identify the Model "R". The R-model had a larger stock than other Model 99's, heavier through the comb. Measure the checkering on the rifle's forearm, a Model R's checkering was 10-5/8ths inches long and only the forearm's side panels are checkered.
As to why most people write only the first three or four numbers of their rifle's serial number, I have no idea. I always assumed it was because they didn't wish to give the rifle's full serial number because someone might claim the rifle was their's... and they'd have the full serial number to PROVE it!
However, with only about HALF of the rifle's serial number, claiming ownership would be pretty hard to do.
Other than that, your guess is as good as mine.
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Sounds like you might have a later model "R" with a semi-beavertail forearm with a blunt tip and checkered side panels. The Model Rs were made from 1932-1960.
Your serial number puts the date of manufacturer in either 1952 or 1953. However, the surest method of identifying the year of manufacture is by correctly identifying the Lever Boss Code.
The Lever Boss Code "letter" should be inside an small OVAL together with one or two inspector's numbers in front of the Lever Boss Code's letter on the front side of the lever boss. If it is, in fact, a letter "E", then 1953 is the year your rifle was made. Unfortunately, this "Code" letter was stamped very light... and it may not be possible to read.
There are a few other ways you might identify the Model "R". The R-model had a larger stock than other Model 99's, heavier through the comb. Measure the checkering on the rifle's forearm, a Model R's checkering was 10-5/8ths inches long and only the forearm's side panels are checkered.
As to why most people write only the first three or four numbers of their rifle's serial number, I have no idea. I always assumed it was because they didn't wish to give the rifle's full serial number because someone might claim the rifle was their's... and they'd have the full serial number to PROVE it!
However, with only about HALF of the rifle's serial number, claiming ownership would be pretty hard to do.
Other than that, your guess is as good as mine.
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Hi guys i just got a savage 99 and i do not have it in hand yet , my friend is holding it for me i will pick it up next month. It is a savage 99 in 308 winchester with a monte carlo stock with checkpiece and an old weaver 4x scope It is marked 99M westfield Mass. the serial # is 1144xxx in the oval by the lever boss its stamped 9 j So according to the lever boss code info above i beleive it was manufactured in 1958. Is this correct and where does that lever boss code info come from . I called savage today by they no longer give manufacturer dates before 1995 Later Tanoose
Tanoose...
Yes, your rifle was manufactured in 1958. The "9" is the inspector's number and the "J" indicates the year of manufacture.
The Lever Boss Code was stamped on the rifle by Savage inspectors at the time of manufacture and final inspection.
It is unfortuate that the current owners of the Savage Arms Company steadfastly refuse to offer any information to the owners of the Savage rifles made prior to their take-over of Savage Arms. You'd think they'd realize the VALUE of the positive effect of "product support" to the owners of rifles the Savage Arms Company formally manufactured. I guess Savage management must think these same owners won't be prime candidates to buy more rifles in the near future.
This is yet another case of short-sighted Corporate America's "attitude" of "What did you do for ME in the past 24 hours?", eh?
And they wonder why "product loyality" is not what it use to be... :roll:
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Yes, your rifle was manufactured in 1958. The "9" is the inspector's number and the "J" indicates the year of manufacture.
The Lever Boss Code was stamped on the rifle by Savage inspectors at the time of manufacture and final inspection.
It is unfortuate that the current owners of the Savage Arms Company steadfastly refuse to offer any information to the owners of the Savage rifles made prior to their take-over of Savage Arms. You'd think they'd realize the VALUE of the positive effect of "product support" to the owners of rifles the Savage Arms Company formally manufactured. I guess Savage management must think these same owners won't be prime candidates to buy more rifles in the near future.
This is yet another case of short-sighted Corporate America's "attitude" of "What did you do for ME in the past 24 hours?", eh?
And they wonder why "product loyality" is not what it use to be... :roll:
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Texgun...
It's been several months since we talked about the date your Model 99 was manufactured, but I have just obtained some new serial number information concerning the Model 99's... and, according to the serial number, your rifle was DEFINITELY made in 1953... no doubt about it.
I just thought you'd like to know...
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
It's been several months since we talked about the date your Model 99 was manufactured, but I have just obtained some new serial number information concerning the Model 99's... and, according to the serial number, your rifle was DEFINITELY made in 1953... no doubt about it.
I just thought you'd like to know...
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
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