Strange year here in Indiana... the rut was definitely EARLY... and the deer went totally nocturnal early as well. First year in at least 10 that I did not see the first single deer on opening morning of firearms season. My game camera confirmed what I suspected... they were running at night. By the third week in Nov., all the scrapes had completely been abandoned... In talking to my buds around the country, this seems to have happened nation wide... How bout' you guys... :? BTW, if you use this link, you can see my latest game cam pictures... http://www.accs.net/users/drquick/gamecampics.html