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Just wondering what any body's thoughts are, on the neighbor in Pasadena,TX., that shot the 2 burglars. I believe that if that would have taken place here in Ohio, they would hang him out to dry. Since there was apparently no threat to him personally, and he went out of his house to confront the thieves, he put himself into danger. Not sure if Texas has a ''Castle Doctrine'' law in effect or not.
From the reports, the perps were on his property, havn't heard if they had threatened him or not. This is going to be a tough one to call. Glad I'm not on the grand jury. I don't think I could find him guilty of any thing. And I know the race card is going to play out here, as it looks from the reports, he is white, and the burglars were black. gypsyman
 

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I don't know the laws there now but I think it was in the mid 1980's in Texas you could shoot trespassers. I remember reading something about a repo man coming to retrieve a car and was shot dead and the man was not charged. Like I said I don't know the laws now but it would be a bad career choice to be a repo man in Texas in the 80's. Dale
 

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We do have the "Castle Doctrine" in place here in Texas. It is a fine piece of legislation. So that guy in Pasadena should be fine. There's a gentleman in the Dallas area that had his home/business broken in to approximately 40 times over the course of this year. Last month he shot and killed two burglars in the span of 3 weeks. The Dallas Police sided with the business owner.
 

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We do have the "Castle Doctrine" in place here in Texas. It is a fine piece of legislation. So that guy in Pasadena should be fine. There's a gentleman in the Dallas area that had his home/business broken in to approximately 40 times over the course of this year. Last month he shot and killed two burglars in the span of 3 weeks. The Dallas Police sided with the business owner.
Every State should have that legislation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Good citizen. Look at all the money he saved the state. Trial. Defense lawyers. Appeals ad infinitum. Housing. Food. "Rehab". Man ought to get a medal. Or at least a bounty.
 

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This will be a real test of the new Texas law. My only problem with the shooting is the telephone call. Had he not made the call and taken the action he did I don't think a jury in the state would say anything but a justified shooting. The recorded phone call and conversation with the 911 dispatched may throw a different light on the case. However, if it were left to me to decide, I would say a job well done!

If he is not charged this should send a strong message to thieves in the state.
 

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Born and raised here in Texas. 20 year L.E. (retired). I'll bet he walks, and rightly so. They used to hang horse theives and nobody thought anything about it. Castle is WAY over due here, and should be law EVERY WHERE. JMO
 

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why was the response time so slow ?
and a thief is a thief .........................................................................................
 

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Well, now he gets to find out if his neighbor's stuff was worth rolling the dice with a grand jury.

The 911 call won't bode well for him.
 

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Well no matter his fate we will know some of the ground rules involved , and the crook won't be any more trouble !
 

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I heard -- which may be untrue, I don't know -- that the guy warned the burglars to stop and halt and that they did not stop and made a threatening move towards him. I would give the shooter the benefit of the doubt under these circumstances, even in the presence of the 911 call. I have precious little symapathy or consideration for burglars. They are vermin. I accord them slightly more consideration than I do to ticks or horseflies, but not much. We are well rid of these burglars. I live in Texas. If I were a juror, I would have a very friggin' hard time casting a vote to find the shooter guilty under the circumstances I have heard described, regardless of what crap a prosecutor told me in his legal orders to the jury. I hear this guys neighbors are very pleased with the action the shooter took. Let him be judged by the folks in his neighborhood.
 

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That "stuff" is personal property and money--it belongs too someone not too them.
He did the community and state a favor--he defended it.
His actions are not yet decided on by the DA.
I had an event the other night and called 911 with some chest pains--as usual a police officer was the first too arrive--while waiting for the EMC folks I asked him about the man and the incident. He said he thought everything would work out and that the general consensus was that the man was trying too do the right thing.
No problems with the chest--just indigestion--to much turkey day celebrating.
Blessings
 

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Some one individual stood up and acted like a man even when advised not to by a dispatcher. Good show.
 

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if and when this case goes to trial the jury will set the record as to what is OK in Texas , should be interesting !
 

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This case won't go to trial, it will go to GRAND JURY, and that will be the end of it. All the DA has to prove is intent on the behalf of the burglars and they are paid for in Texas.
This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened down here, just the first time so many have heard about it.
 

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That "stuff" is personal property and money--it belongs too someone not too them.
He did the community and state a favor--he defended it.
His actions are not yet decided on by the DA.
I had an event the other night and called 911 with some chest pains--as usual a police officer was the first too arrive--while waiting for the EMC folks I asked him about the man and the incident. He said he thought everything would work out and that the general consensus was that the man was trying too do the right thing.
No problems with the chest--just indigestion--to much turkey day celebrating.
Blessings


I fully understand the situation that he addressed and I'm pleased that these two creeps are off the streets. I agree that he did well to defend his neighbors property, BUT, in my state (where we don't even have CCW permitting) I would go to jail for trying to protect my neighbor's property by use of deadly force.
I'm curious to see if this guy overstepped his bounds by acting contrary to the 911 dispatcher's "advice", and went outside of his home. The DA will decide that.

Dee says that this will go Horn's way. I hope he's right.

I also hope that Horn can sleep at night and remains alright psychologically. Justifiable shootings still take a tremendous toll on a man.
 
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