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With the recent events at Ft. Hood and hopefully an awaking of American to the presence of large numbers of Muslins in the country every American should be aware of the position Obama takes in regard to Muslins.

Yet the left and Obama worshipers will still deny that he is Muslim in his heart and that he is bent on destroying the U.S. by insidious moves under the guise of governing!

It was an assault on my sensibilities that is hard to speak. Truth to this degree should roil every American's guts and create tightness in the chest, as it did mine. This ought to open the eyes of even the deniers. How in the name of God and America did we allow this to happen? If you've not seen it, watch it before they delete off U Tube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
 

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rockbilly, we live in an age of pre-emptive strikes against other countries FOR WHAT THEY "MIGHT" DO, nation building when a nation already exists but, does not agree with us. Our government puts Americans in jail for not paying their taxes, while the tax collectors themselves don't pay theirs, we give money to countries that hate us, WE CLAIM they are our friends while they say they are not, and prove it daily, we keep alive financially an organization called the U.N. which 98% percent of all it's members vote AGAINST US 99% of the time, we shed our own blood in defense of others, such as Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia, whom will not even pay us to do so, and pass restrictions on how our women soldiers dress in their country, and yet, in fear of offending the enemy, we are so politically correct, that we refuse to call a spade, A SHOVEL.
The Major was a U.S. soldier, but a Muslim Terrorist FIRST, and he proved it to the world. And still we will not admit it.
And now we have a president that is OPENLY sympathetic to the Muslim terrorist, and still his support stands, and the Congress ASSISTS HIM, in the dis assembly of America.
 

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Correct Dee!

Just goes to show what those in power will do to stay there.
Greed & Power, that is all the think about.

Why should we worry about hurting some countries feelings when they don't care about us not the least little bit.
I am tired of our government and THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE kissing every other countries A$% and saying we are sorry for offending them.
I am not sorry.
I really don't give a Damn about them.
We have enough to worry about in our own country.
They come over here and tell us what they want, and like a bunch of dumb dumbs we give it to them and then they turn around and strike us from within.
I still love my country but it is getting harder everyday!

I have got to stop now, my BPs starting to rise.
Keep up the fight Dee while I calm down some.


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I still love my country but it is getting harder everyday!
I love my country but hate the government or more properly stated the folks running our government these days. We really need to fire the entire lot and replace them with folks who actually believe in and support the US Constitution.
 

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Dee said:
rockbilly, we live in an age of pre-emptive strikes against other countries FOR WHAT THEY "MIGHT" DO,
Kind of like giving Obama the Nobel peace prize for what he is going to accomplish... ::)
 

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DITTO GB!


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I thought this was interesting, is now the time to play “Cowboys and *********?”

FBI: 10% of U.S. Mosques Preach Jihad

Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:09 PM

By: Ronald Kessler
Imams preach jihad and extremism in 10 percent of the 2,000 mosques in the United States, the FBI estimates.

That sums up the problem facing us as we ponder the meaning of Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan’s slayings of 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas. Given his association with a pro-al-Qaida imam in northern Virginia and his preoccupation with radical Islamic Web sites, it’s clear that the radical element of Islam influenced Hasan.

On the other hand, those who condemn Muslims in general because of the actions of Hasan and others like him are engaging in prejudice that has no place in America. Indeed, such stereotyping sets back the war on terror, because we need moderate Muslims on our side.

The problem is not the Quran, which is no more incendiary than some passages in the Bible. (Deuteronomy, for example, prescribes stoning to death for those who “served other gods and worshipped them.”) The problem is the radical element that uses the Quran as an excuse to engage in terrorism and the failure of many moderate Muslims to condemn the extremists.

About a quarter of the Muslims in America ages 18 through 29 believe that suicide bombings can be justified, according to a Pew Research Center poll. Generating those attitudes are imams who preach jihad and hatred in American mosques and postings on the Internet, according to FBI counterterrorism officials interviewed for my book “The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack.”
Saying he is being conservative, an FBI counterterrorism official told me in interviews for the book that 1 in 10 imams preach jihad. Before 9/11, the number of mosques where imams preached jihad was even greater than today.

“Those who actively support extremist causes, say America is evil and deserves what it gets, and celebrate the death of soldiers, know they may come to our attention,” an FBI official says. “So they don’t do it as openly now.”

Before 9/11, he says, “There was much more of that because all of it was considered by Justice Department guidelines to be purely protected speech. We do not have incitement laws in America, but once an imam facilitates someone else taking action, he has crossed the line into material support and becomes our business.”

An example was Ali al-Timimi, a spiritual leader at a mosque in Northern Virginia who preached jihad and provided contact information for those who went to Afghanistan for training in terrorist camps. Al-Timimi is serving a life prison term.

The FBI has outreach programs to try to develop sources in the Muslim community and solicit tips, but FBI agents have found little receptivity. They find that Muslims often are in denial about the fact that the terrorists who threaten the U.S. are Muslims.

“I had this discussion with the director of a very prominent Muslim organization here in D.C.,” a frustrated counterterrorism agent says. “And he said, ‘Why are you guys always looking at the Muslim community?’”

The agent began laughing.

“Okay, you know what I’ll do?” the agent said. “I’ll start an Irish squad, or how about a Japanese squad? You want me to waste my time and your taxpayers' dollars going to look at the Irish? They’re not killing Americans. Right now, I’m going to put my money and my people in a place where the threat is.”
The agent tells them to take a look at the cells that the FBI has rolled up in the United States.

“I can name the home-grown cells, all of whom are Muslim, all of whom were seeking to murder Americans,” the agent says. “It’s not the Irish, it’s not the French, it’s not the Catholics, it’s not the Protestants, it’s the Muslims.”

In response, Muslim groups have told him he is rough around the edges.

“I’m not rough around the edges,” he tells them. “You’re just not used to straight talk.”

They respond by getting angry at him.

Although Muslims occasionally condemn al-Qaida, “Rarely do we have them coming to us and saying, ‘There are three guys in the community that we’re very concerned about,’” one agent says. “They want to fix it inside the community. They’re a closed group, a very, very closed group. It’s part of their culture that they want to settle the problem within their own communities. They’ve actually said that to us, which I then go crazy over.”

On the one hand, “They don’t want anyone to know they have extremists in their community,” the agent says. “Well, beautiful. Except do you read the newspapers? Everyone already knows it. That horse has left the barn. So there’s a lot of talk about engagement, but realistically, we’ve got a long, long way to go.”

At one meeting, a Muslim group suggested having a photo taken of its members with FBI Director Robert Mueller to show their community isn’t a bunch of terrorists and that they are partners in the war on terror.

An agent replied, “Let me make a suggestion: When you bring to my attention real extremists who are here to plan and do something, who are here supporting terrorism, and I work that based on your information, then I promise you, I will have the director stand up on the stage with you.”

To the agent’s amazement, the answer was: “That could never happen. We would lose our constituency. We could never admit to bringing someone to the FBI.”

“Well, we’ve just defined the problem, haven’t we?” the agent told them.

To be sure, some individual Muslims have brought leads to the FBI. That led to FBI cases in Lackawanna, N.Y.; Lodi, Calif.; and Atlanta. But the FBI has found that imams and other community leaders are reluctant to do that.

If the news media filmed imams preaching hated of America in mosques that are public, the number of imams publicly espousing jihad would dwindle to close to zero. Until that happens, Americans must learn to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys.

“In recent years, U.S. soldiers have fought a common enemy on behalf of and often alongside Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo, Kuwait, Somalia, and elsewhere,” the Wall Street Journal pointed out in an editorial. “The U.S. is fighting a sworn enemy today, just as in World War II American Germans, Italians and Japanese fought sworn U.S. enemies of the same race and religion. Many American Muslims will do the same if we stay focused on the real enemy, and show we have the will to do what’s necessary to find them and stop them.”
 

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If they were truly "the religion of peace" as they claim, they would turn in their troublemakers in the community, and denounce them as did the catholic church when scandals rocked the church. Yet the muslims say nothing, except yell discrimination when someone offends them.
I was at the rifle range three weeks ago (in minnesota) there was a muzzie a few benches down shooting an AK, he was just ripping off a clip, laying on the ground, ripping off a clip, looking at his target thru a scope, shaking his head, ripping off another clip, while the range officers and all the other shooters there were watching in disbelief. How long would I have been allowed to shoot at the range had I been shooting like that? You could just tell he was waiting for someone to confront him.
 
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