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Colt has started shipping new Python's into distribution already.
 

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Ya,aaaaay! And the 4.25" barreled version only costs $1500.00.
I'll take 2!
Sheesh! How many will bite at that price?
 

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Ya,aaaaay! And the 4.25" barreled version only costs $1500.00.
I'll take 2!
Sheesh! How many will bite at that price?
I'm biting ... and I've just been laid off!
 

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I paid $400.00 for my first new python in 77. In 78 I bought another one for a little over $500.00.
By 79 I had come to the conclusion that a K frame Smith had a better action.

My first duty weapon was a Diamondback 4".

Their wantin $1400.00 for that gun, and twice that for the old Pythons.
I know where three Pythons, and two Diamondbacks are that have been sitting under glass for over 2 years.
They are over priced, and so are the new ones.
IN MY OPINION.
 

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Well let's hope the new ones are better, like they say they are. If so, I'll likely get one and not let it go like I did the last two.

Thanks, Dinny
 

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I paid $400.00 for my first new python in 77. In 78 I bought another one for a little over $500.00.
By 79 I had come to the conclusion that a K frame Smith had a better action.

My first duty weapon was a Diamondback 4".

Their wantin $1400.00 for that gun, and twice that for the old Pythons.
I know where three Pythons, and two Diamondbacks are that have been sitting under glass for over 2 years.
They are over priced, and so are the new ones.
IN MY OPINION.
AND your opinion is MY opinion too!!!

I've had 4 or 5 pythons over the years, I've found them to be way over rated!

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The trigger pull is long, and stacks a little. I tore both down and improved them some, but the Smith action cleans up much better.
I don't believe a human can hold it steady enough to prove their more accurate than a smoothed up L frame. A Ramsom rest might, but I wouldn't bet against the Smith either way.
 

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It's nice to see an American firearms company come out with a 'new' revolver. It doesn't happen often and I applaud their endeavors in fielding one when black plastic and cerrakote aluminum are the in thing.

That said it's prolly not like the old ones inside, a lot of hand fitting went into those and no machine is going to be invested in and built for an unknown market. It's stainless which has its merits but there was nothing like the royal blue on a python years back. Saved Colt time and $$ doing what they did. It could be a new King Cobra with Python externals, time will tell.

If you like Colts and a Python was on the bucket list this could be the time for it.
 

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Id take a k or l frame over a python if both cost the same! Sure wouldn't pay 50 percent more for an inferior gun just because it has pretty bluing. Only owned one python and thought it was the most overpriced handgun I ever owned.
 

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Back in the day, I was into long range pistol shooting.....as I was hunting with my handguns all the time. I looked at competition with my hunting revolvers, as the best pistol practice I could get.

SO, I went through revolvers looking for the BEST accuracy I could get, and that's the biggest reason those pythons got sent down the road! My opinion then, as it is today, if you want the most consistently accurate revolver with the finest build and smoothest action, then you wanted the original S&W 357 magnum, later to become the M-27.



The accuracy and workmanship is TOP notch!



They could be bought for the price of a python or in most cases, for less than a python and they are a much superior gun. Nothing Ruger or Colt ever built or builds compares!



Mine "now" shoot much better than I can, but back in the day they were my long range match winning guns !, those along with a couple M-29's I also shot competitively…

Now I'll brag a little, I won 13 long range pistol matches in a row with my M-29, 6-1/2 and 8-3/8.


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if you want the most consistently accurate revolver with the finest build and smoothest action, then you wanted the original S&W 357 magnum, later to become the M-27.
I never really thought that much of the Python, or colt revolvers in general. I guess I woulda bin called a "Smith Man."

For that reason I lusted for a M-27, and opined that it was the most beautiful handgun made! :tango_face_grin:

Seems to me our State Troopers used them. Or maybe the M-28. :confused:
 

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Id take a k or l frame over a python if both cost the same! Sure wouldn't pay 50 percent more for an inferior gun just because it has pretty bluing. Only owned one python and thought it was the most overpriced handgun I ever owned.
Lloyd I'd take the K or L over a python also, include N's with that statement.

I bought an 8" nickle python when they came out. Shot it a little, liked the balance of a 6.5" M27 better. What sent it down the road was the nickle started to peel where the barrel shank protrudes in the frame window.

The 2nd one was used, 6", but I didn't fire it much because I had a few Smiths. Never cared fro the factory grip but had an old Hogue hard brown plastic 1 piece grip on it. That was better by far. The 6" was sold about 3 years ago.

The only Colt left is an official police 4", I'll prolly hang onto that one. Takes the python grips and speedloaders also.
 

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I admit I have a soft spot for those old Colt revolvers. But, they're sure not worth the price people are asking for them now! To me the Python has the "look", and that Royal blue finish was never quite matched by anything else. I also preferred the Colt style cylinder latch.

All that said I would much rather buy 3 or 4 model 19's instead of one Python!! If you want something to show off at the range buy a Python. If you want a working gun buy a Smith or Ruger.
 

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I LOVE the "K" frames, I've owned M-19's since the early 70's... Especially if they are chambered in 44spl.!!



OR, how about 25/20 Winchester?



Those two kinda make ya wanna have a party!!


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Possibly due to my particular hand - eye combination I have not found any Smith, be it N, L or K frame to match any of my Pythons in accuracy or in either SA and DA trigger feel. The older Smith models are pretty good, but the more recent (Hillary hole) models are disappointing. The only revolvers that best the Pythons in accuracy are my Manurhin MR73s and my Freedom Arms revolvers.

I've had to sell two K frames as parts guns due to forcing cones cracking. S&W told me they were out of stock when I inquired about replacement barrels. I still own two (or three?) but their relegated to the safe. I'm not going to risk shooting them again. I still have their original boxes and original grips
 

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I find it interesting that back when the Python was priced within the reach (barely) of the average person it was probably the most universally admired revolver. Now that the prices on them are out of reach for most people it's suddenly become the most criticized revolver ever made! It's only a matter of time before someone says they'd rather have a Hi-Point than a Python if the price was the same!

Human nature - "If I can't afford it I have to criticize it"!! Sort of like criticizing someone who buys a big house or fancy car.
 

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ill put my old "shooter" 15 up against any python. It actually outshoots my clark ppc custom 10 off of bags. Have had numerous 10s 15s and 19s and have yet to find one the wasn't an exceptional shooter. Where I screwed up is when the police trade in 10s and 15s were going for a 150 bucks. I bought 4 of them and gave three away. Should have bought 10 and still had less into them then id have paid for one nice python. Good reason you don't see a python on a ppc line. Dont tell me price when i see 2000 dollar smith customs out there. Python trigger pull is so long and a smith with just a little work is as smooth or smoother and shorter. Forcing cone? You can shoot out a python too if you feed it a steady diet of 357. Thing is people thing pythons don't wear out because about nobody I know shoots the snot out of them. Show me one with 50k round count and if you can find one id bet most of those were 38s. Smith k frame forcing cone is a problem for you get a L frame. My 15 has I don't know how many thousand rounds through it and the forcing cone is just fine. Sorry fan boys but in my opinion a python is the most overpriced handgun ive owned.
 

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I find it interesting that back when the Python was priced within the reach (barely) of the average person it was probably the most universally admired revolver. Now that the prices on them are out of reach for most people it's suddenly become the most criticized revolver ever made!
This just isn't true...

Back in the day, no one was into handguns more than I was and believe me, they were criticized plenty by those of us that USED our revolvers, back then.

On the competition scene, they were NOT considered the most accurate, and on top of that, the action was considered some what fragile when used hard, and not easy to get properly repaired once it broke.

Besides the above, one of the reasons hunters didn't care for them, was because of the vent rib that was hard to keep the dirt out of and rust forming there.

Then there's that assbackwards cylinder release! AND...…….well, I think you are getting the picture...

These are guys that use their guns hard, not a bunch of guys that buy and sit around and grin at their revolvers!!

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