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Christmas came a little early this year. I picked up a used Rem. 700 BDL in 7mm Mag. and I wanted to see what you guys were using in your rigs. At this point I'm only looking at factory loads. Please list brand, bullet weight, and bullet type.

Thanks for your help.

BTW, I have an opportunity to hunt Audad sheep in the mountains of far west Texas over the Thanksgiving holiday. Shots on these animals vary, but average between 300 to 500 yards.
 

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I have had outstanding results with the Hornady Custom in both the 139 gr Interbond and the 154 gr Interbond.
My Encore shoots them both in 3/4 inch groups and both have performed well on deer.
 

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When I first fired my Ruger 77 in 7 mag I was upset. I had Remington C-L 175 gr. , WW 175 gr. and 150 gr. Power Points, and Federal 175 grain. Accuracy was terrible with all three brands.

Fortunately I am a reloader and before doing anything radical to the rifle like dumping it I tried some re-loads from the bass had generated. I went back to the range with ammunition using Remington C-L 175 gr. bullets, Speer 175, and Hornady 175. The powder was H4831 and because of it's bulk it filled the case to greater capacity. This was based on the old shake test. ::) I found the rifle to be accurate with my reloads. I later loaded 145, and 160 grain bullets with success using H4831, H870, and AA8700. All three powders produced accurate loads.

Last spring I again tried the rifle with 150 grain factory Power Pts. The accuracy was not acceptable.

A hunting friend is very successful using 150 grain Remington C-L factory ammunition in his Remington 7MM BDL. Another friend showed me the picture of this seasons buck collected with is 7Mag BDL. He also uses 150 grain factory C-L ammunition. He has been showing me the pictures of his current bear and buck every year for the last fifteen years.

In my case I attribute the problem to the rifle, then the ammunition. At the time I first tried the rifle all the expensive, premium ammunition was not on the market. I may have found success with the Hornaday Heavy Magnum ammunition or the Federal PREMIUM VITAL-SHOK ammunition.

My point is what works in one rifle may not work in another. There are a lot of options out there now days. Happy Hunting
 

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I don't know if Federal still loads them, but the most accurate and apparently lethal load that came out of my Browning Stainless Stalker in 7mm Rem Mag was Federal Premium 150 grain Sierra Boat-Tails. I think that Sierra now calls them "Game Kings." This bullet flies straight and hits hard. Also, it seems to penetrate just fine, so performance is great.

The Sierra bullets are known for being accurate, which is something that you need for those 300 to 500 yard shots. Also, the boat-tail design will allow the bullet to fly straighter and thus not drop as much.

Good luck.

Zachary
 

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Thanks guys. I recognize that individual rifles perform differently with different ammo. I didn't see where you guys are using any 140 grain bullets. I looked at the ballistics of the 140 grain Remington Cor-lokt (sp). They looked pretty good, but I haven't had good results from Remington ammo in any of my other guns. The ammo that has performed well on paper and in the field is the Federal Power Shok. I've used it in my 6mm, 308, and my 30-06.

The other thing I meant to ask was whether ballistic tips would be good on these animals. I do know Audad are some stout animals - would a lead soft point be better?
 

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I have a Ruger M77 and struggled through several factory brands and bullet weights. Finally tried the Federal Premium with the 165 gr. Sierra Game King. By far the best preformer and is a lead tip bullet. By the way if this is a new barrel you may need to polish a bit before it starts to group your rounds well.

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I don't know what it takes to knock down an Aoudad, but as of late, I've been quite impressed with the factory Remington 140 gr. Core-Lokt Ultra load. They knock the snot out of these big northern whitetails, and are quite accurate in my rifle as well. They are getting very expensive however. I bought a bunch of these loads at a close out sale at WalMart two years ago, and have been very happy with them. In my 7mmWSM, I've been shooting the Federal Fusion 150's with excellent results. Although I haven't shot these out of my 7mmRM, I would assume the results would be about exactly the same. The Fusions have been going up in price as well, altho they are still much cheaper than the Core-Lokt Ultras.
 

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Thanks for the input guys. I'll head out to the store tomorrow and buy a sampling of ammo and see what I can come up with.
 

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when you get further down the line, and can handload try this one:

139 gr' Hornady BTSP (one **** of a bullet!) with Rem' or Win' brass, a Rem' 9 1/2 primer, and 69 grains of Alliant's Reloder 22. crimp it with a Lee "Factory Crimper" die. then "get ready for ****" when you touch off that primer. the recoil is significant and the velocity will be over 3200 fps (per Alliant) in many rifles with 24" barrels. you will bust **** wide-open with that one; and the sheep will fall over out past 400 yards from your rifle! Naturally: you must work up your load in your rifle as safety principles dictate for a handload.

the Lee Shooter program says that with a 1.75" scope height, a 2.88" sight-in above point of aim at 100 yds', at 3200 fps' muzzle velocity, that your bullet will be almost 3.8 inches above line of sight at 150 yds' and will be right on/zeroed in for 300 yards. it will be almost 9" below point of aim at 400 yds' but it will still be going 2360 feet per second!

Hornady! what more needs to be said?

good hunting to you,

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I like best the Winchester supreme 140 grain silver tip shoot very well but are $35 to $45 per box! Actually my 7mm rifle shoots any good 140 grain well!!I like my 7mm for long range knock down power100yards + but use my 30-06 for short range woods hunting!
 

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Thanks guys. SafetySheriff that sounds like one heck of a load. I'm printing a copy for when I get a reloading table set up. I'm sure that one would drop just about anything like a sack of rocks! ;D
 

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here's a website for alliants reloder powders and others: www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/ you have to click on "enter the guide" at the bottom, and so on 'til you get to centerfire rifle reloading data, etc.

glad you like the load.

ss'
 

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HC,
I have not gotten around to buying dies and start handloading for my 7 mag yet so I'm using Win 150 gr Powerpoints which group nicely for me.
 

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When it comes to factory ammo I would choose one of the following:

Federal
140g AccuBond @ 3110fps
140g TSX @ 3120fps
160g AccuBond @ 2900fps
160g TSX @ 2940fps
160g A-Frame @ 2900fps

Remington
150g Scirocco @ 3110fps
160g A-Frame @ 2900fs

As a handloader, I'd stay away from any cup-and-core bullet (like the 139g Hornady) at 3200fps and go with a bonded core instead. At a minimum I'd go with an InterBond or AccuBond. My choice is the 140g Norht fork @ 3200fps and the 160g North Fork @ 3048fps. My buddy uses 160g Trophy Bonded. Nailed a mule deer in the right ham a few weeks ago and the 140g North Fork was recovered n the chest cavity. 93.7% weight retention, perfect mushroom, 3 feet of penetration, ad the buck dropped at the shot. Doesn't get much better and I certainly wouldn't expect performance like that from any cup-and-core bullet pushed that hard.

FWIW, I wasn't intending to take a shot through the ham. It was a quartering away shot on a highly alerted deer that stepped forward as the trigger broke. Point of aim was behind the last rib. Dang glad I was using a bullet up to the job, although the job wasn't quite what I had intended.
 

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You know, it ain't gonna take too many of those high dollar boxes of ready rolled ammo before you could buy a Lee reloader kit and a Lyman's 48th reloader book and tailor make your own ammo just for your own rifle. Then you can shoot all you want with ammo that'll beat anything you can buy over the counter. Save your brass.
 

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My 7mag really likes the federal premiums 160 gr Nosler partitions, $44 for 20. Like said above, couple boxes of those & you could be set up to reload
 

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For really long range shooting (300 to 500 yards), I would not advocate the Swift-A-Frame. Although this is an EXCELLENT bullet that generally mushrooms beautifully and reliably, as well as retain a very high percentage of its weight, the SAF is not an aerodynamic bullet. As such, at longer distances, it will drop considerably more than those bullets that are more aerodynamic (such as the Sierra boat-tails that I recommended).

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My new 7 mag. CDL SS fluted like's both the 160AB and the 150Sciroccos. IMO the 160 AB is a bit much for southern WT. I will try both this year , but will likely stay with the Scirocco.
 

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Zach'

somebody may have forgotten the original question at the top of this post. for long-range shooting i'd still stick with the Hornady, in spite of bonded-core performance at closer range. the other part of it is the fact that some decent shooting has been done with that 139 gr' Hornady on elk at closer ranges with the 7 mm magnum. the Interloc has done a good job for years, as has the Core-Lokt. i just think that a bullet with a lesser price tag is more to my liking unless a larger, dangerous-game critter is being hunted.

take care,

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