[stuporman]

Was looking at a Bushmaster AR-15 and noticed a Bull-Pup style weapon offered that takes AR-15 mags and some internal parts.

What do yaull think of it, compared to the AR-15.

Supposedly same accuracy and reliability, just a different shell.

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/m17s/

Thanks for the input!
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[boneguru]

bullpup is basically the same thing just stacked different

to make a bullpup you slide the action back or push the trigger group forward. the ammo is the same the same mags work it just moves the fireing port closer to your face and the barrel starts much further back. sometimes they will shorten the barrel and compact the entire package as was the original intent. great idea just not as many aftermarket parts and mods. if you want to go nuts with goodies stick to an ar platform everybody is making add ons. Raymond

 

[DEPUTY]

mag changes area pain under stress, weapons retion is out the window and your head is in a fog of smoke sometimes!

 

[xnmr53]

I have no practical experience with bullpups, but my first reaction was always a concern with the consequences of a case separation. Anyone have any comments or data?

 

[1GLOCK]

I personaly dont like them at all. The chamber is right in your face. That could be very dangerous in case of a head separation or or other major malfunction. If youre a lefty you cant even effectively fire the weapon because the ejection port is right in your face. Even if it functions fine and you are right handed you still have the smoke and burnt powder blowing in your face. Oh yeah, due to the extended trigger mechanism (uses a small rod to connect the trigger to the hammer) reliable function of the trigger can be a problem.
Just my oppinion, I could be wrong.

 

[Iggy Hazard]

The FN F-2000 - my favorite bullpup (not that I've ever actually seen one). It's ambidextrous and I shoot left-handed (left eye dominant). The casings fall out the front from a "shelf" like thing on the side.

 

[coopershooter]

bullpup

hard to get a good trigger on a bullpup.

 

[BattleRifleG3]

I hate the balance of most bullpups, whose center of gravity is too high and too far back. I think a better use of the bullpup design would be for long barreled rifles who use the design to be less barrel heavy, not shift the center of gravity behind the rear grip. I think it would be a good design for semi-auto sniper rifles, such as may be chambered in 300 WSM.

 

[Bagpiper]

BattleRifleG3, it is funny you mention a bull-pup sniper rifle. The Walther WA-2000 was such an animal, and it was chambered for .300 WSM. Along with .308 and 7.5x55mm.
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Q. What's worse than a bagpiper?
A. Two bagpipers.

 

[S.Sumner]

My first experience with a Bullpup was a High Standard
Model 10 that I was issued. This was a 12 Ga. semi auto with a built in
flashlight on top. That shotgun was the finest entry weapon
I think that has ever been devised by man. As far as Bullpup
configurations go, I am quite fond of them. Same hitting
power in a more compact weapon. In an urban situation,
I see them as superior to a full size rifle for the obvious
reason of faster handling in confined quarters. Some of the carbines
are quite good for this also but you give up barrel length
to get the compact size. I must agree that most of the Bullpups
have rough triggers though. I find these to be the ones that started
life as a rifle and were redesigned to a bullpup configuration.
Fire a weapon such as a FAMAS or an AUG and the trigger no longer
seems like a problem. These are great close range weapons.