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The main fault will be the people like the few on here that want to divide the country by race, religion, and geographic location and do more fighting amongst conservatives in that bunch then they do fighting the real enemy's we have today, the socialists!
What if the Biden won? Funny.
I guess anything's possible.

Hmm ... wonder whose fault it would be. North, South, East or West. . Or Northeast
.. maybe Texas. Ouhh frickin CALIFORNIA !
 

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Dee, why did you pull your post about your grandpa and Antietam?
Got your answer yet? 馃

Please note, that I, by one individual, sometimes a 2nd, am "reported" to say things I did not, nor would I have ever said.

To believe things I do not, nor have ever believed.

To have done things I would have never done.

And to think things that I have never thought.

As to my posts, there are numerous instances where, there is a total lack of comprehension concerning them, or in most cases, an opportunity to attack, and distort my meaning, but usually, all of the above.

This individual has even worked out my genealogy by his own deciphering, ignoring that through the years, I have stated that both sides of my family are from Tennessee, and the Carolinas, and are both Irish, and Cherokee.

All of which is allowed by this individual, who goes unchecked by moderators, or those in charge such as former owner Bill Graham.

So I have a perpetual choice concerning this low brow form of attempted censorship, and insult.

Endlessly Fighting, or ignore endless attacks, and contentious innuendos, or leave the site.

Only 2 are being considered at this time.

So as to your question, I regret it being asked, but it has, and you see can the result.
I have not even acknowledged his presence in months and will continue to do so, yet Bill Graham allows him to rave on unchecked, at anyone he chooses.
 

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little code swearing, a few tears and the rest is just another typical personal attack. Seems its ok for others to do it though. But wow be if I do it even to defend against an attack. Its ok like the sticks and stones things names don't hurt me and im used to the attacks and especially the tears. I just consider the source knowing theres a few pot stirrers and hypocrites here amongst a bunch of great guys.


Same half a dozen I have problems with all the time whether its politics, religion or even deer hunting and shooting. Some follow every post I make making an idiot out of themselves (aint a horse:tango_face_wink:). Most only do it when they have back up. Management sees this just as clearly as I do. Best try the ignore thing again. You and your buddies "endless fighting" hasnt won you a single battle . Some have learned and some have gone away. Just a few left that don't have the sense to leave me alone. I chuckle. About a 100 times ive heard "lets ignore him" but there back the next day.


Its actually mild on here lately. Back when we had that hate section that posed as a religious section it was much worse. You see the only thing they hate more then a yankee is a catholic. You hit it on the head with our who are they going to blame post. That's what there all about. Blaming anyone but themselves. "OH OH OH Lloyds picking on me again mommy and Bill. I told him he was yankee trash and not a Christian because he catholic and he had the nerve to argue with me about it:tango_face_grin:" IGNORE ME DEE! PLEASE!!!!!


Funny thing is im on about 10 other fourms and this is the only one that this stuff happens on. No doubt do to the fact on the other fourms the guys come for the guns, loading and casting. Not politics religion and wars that nobody today is still alive that fought in it. That's the way this fourm was 15 years ago. Ask Bill, the fighting was very rare back then. A much easier question to answer is "would this fourm be a better place if politics and religion had been banned 15 years ago" That's a no brainer.
 

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The main fault will be the people like the few on here that want to divide the country by race, religion, and geographic location and do more fighting amongst conservatives in that bunch then they do fighting the real enemy's we have today, the socialists!
What if the Biden won? Funny.
I guess anything's possible.

Hmm ... wonder whose fault it would be. North, South, East or West. . Or Northeast
.. maybe Texas. Ouhh frickin CALIFORNIA !
This post was anecdotal and satirical.

A lot of characters here seems to be pointing a finger north south east and west ... always away from themselves. Weird huh ?
 

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lloyd, you cause a lot of trouble on these threads and have for quite a while.

There's a word you should learn, "filter", not the one in your gas line, but the one from your brain to your (big) mouth.


little code swearing, a few tears and the rest is just another typical personal attack. Seems its ok for others to do it though. But wow be if I do it even to defend against an attack. Its ok like the sticks and stones things names don't hurt me and im used to the attacks and especially the tears. I just consider the source knowing theres a few pot stirrers and hypocrites here amongst a bunch of great guys.


Same half a dozen I have problems with all the time whether its politics, religion or even deer hunting and shooting. Some follow every post I make making an idiot out of themselves (aint a horse
). Most only do it when they have back up. Management sees this just as clearly as I do. Best try the ignore thing again. You and your buddies "endless fighting" hasnt won you a single battle . Some have learned and some have gone away. Just a few left that don't have the sense to leave me alone. I chuckle. About a 100 times ive heard "lets ignore him" but there back the next day.


Its actually mild on here lately. Back when we had that hate section that posed as a religious section it was much worse. You see the only thing they hate more then a yankee is a catholic. You hit it on the head with our who are they going to blame post. That's what there all about. Blaming anyone but themselves. "OH OH OH Lloyds picking on me again mommy and Bill. I told him he was yankee trash and not a Christian because he catholic and he had the nerve to argue with me about it
" IGNORE ME DEE! PLEASE!!!!!


Funny thing is im on about 10 other fourms and this is the only one that this stuff happens on. No doubt do to the fact on the other fourms the guys come for the guns, loading and casting. Not politics religion and wars that nobody today is still alive that fought in it. That's the way this fourm was 15 years ago. Ask Bill, the fighting was very rare back then. A much easier question to answer is "would this fourm be a better place if politics and religion had been banned 15 years ago" That's a no brainer.
 

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Dee, why did you pull your post about your grandpa and Antietam?
Got your answer yet? 馃
Yeah, i guess so.

I kinda figured it was because of Lloyd but, I was part of the conversation and I was curious. It was a simple direct question, nothing more.
Yes, I know it was.

There is a forum on this site called "Civil War aka the War of Northern Aggression Discussion".

Sometimes a pretty good discussion can be had there before the trolls show up.

If your interested I'll start watching that one, I enjoy the history sharing that "can" go on there.
 

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Dee, why did you pull your post about your grandpa and Antietam?
Got your answer yet? 馃
Yeah, i guess so.

I kinda figured it was because of Lloyd but, I was part of the conversation and I was curious. It was a simple direct question, nothing more.
Yes, I know it was.
Great ! We have an accord then.
Good, check it out.馃槈
No problem. But, i have. This thread is in the civil war forum.
 

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Dee, why did you pull your post about your grandpa and Antietam?
Got your answer yet? 馃
Yeah, i guess so.

I kinda figured it was because of Lloyd but, I was part of the conversation and I was curious. It was a simple direct question, nothing more.
Yes, I know it was.
Great ! We have an accord then.
Good, check it out.馃槈
No problem. But, i have. This thread is in the civil war forum.
Waaaahahaha!
Well, I always click on "active topics", didn't even notice. 馃お
 

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Personally I think we'd be better off.

Slavery would have ended soon anyway, it was ending around that time in Europe. States would still have rights as would we the people. I think the south would have eventually merged back into the union but perhaps not. Other than during the world wars I think we'd be better off separate personally.
 

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What country? If the Confederacy had won the war, the US would have dissolved into a Europe, the 6 New England states would have formed their own country, the Southern states would be like South Africa, and the West would have turned into different Countries as well. And 75 years later, with no US to win WW2, the current country would be divided in half...those west of the mississippi speaking Japanese, and those east speaking German....
 

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What country? If the Confederacy had won the war, the US would have dissolved into a Europe, the 6 New England states would have formed their own country, the Southern states would be like South Africa, and the West would have turned into different Countries as well. And 75 years later, with no US to win WW2, the current country would be divided in half...those west of the mississippi speaking Japanese, and those east speaking German....
Complete nonsense.

Neither Germany nor Japan had the populations, shipping capacity or ability to project military power into the Western Hemisphere, whether acting individually or jointly. In June 1941 Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa and became irreversibly bogged down in Russian. Even before that Hitler could not cross the English Channel to invade Great Britain. Any serious contention that he could cross 3,000 miles of the Atlantic Ocean is delusional. The "invasion scare" was psychological warfare by the pro-War FDR administration.

Japan only attacked the US because of US sanctions against oil and FDR's secret plans for attacking Japan with bombers (flying from mainland China) before Pearl Harbor occurred. It was only fortuitously that Japan attacked the US First. Declassified doc's show FDR was planning to attack Japan first if his provocations were unsuccessful.

If the US had remained neutral as most citizens wanted, the Japanese and German forces, converging on the USSR from east and west, would have taken out the USSR without any need for a cold war, the Korean War, the Viet Nam war etc.

WW2 was not fought to make the world safe for democracy, but to make the world safe for Communism. It succeeded. Rank and file Americans, 400,000 of whom died for nothing, would have been far served by neutrality. Even a loss the war would have been better for the American people. We'd have been in a stronger position to keep out millions of 3d world primitives who are now overrunning us.

In 1861, the "Union" was securely in control of the northern states, the pacific states (California, Oregon) and territories in between and there is NO evidence that the western states would have broken off into another country.

The south would have been like "South Africa?" What does that even mean? Without the northern conquest and implementation of the so called "civil rights" thinking, whites would never have been relegated to second class citizenship. The South would have been forced to solve the slavery issue on its own without relying on Northern economic support for slavery or fugitive slave laws.

The point is the killing of 600,000 (white) Americans to "end slavery" was the most disgusting waste of human life in the history. It achieved absolutely NOTHING worthwhile. NOTHING. The "freedom" of all the blacks in the world is not and was not worth the life of one white man.

Union victory made possible the creation of a new voting block of millions who do not respect any norm of civilized behavior, the migration of "free" blacks to the north to destroy civilization there and the relegation of whites to permanent second class citizenship. "Civil rights" is a hoax that's achieved nothing more than stripping whites of our rights of freedom of association and freedom of contract and has stripped whites of the power to protect white children from racially motivated violence in forcibly "integrated" schools.

Blacks are always wailing about how dangerous white people are, even as they tirelessly try to attach themselves as tightly to whites as possible, invading our neighborhoods and our schools and destroying them. Does anybody think the black populations of Chicago, Boston, Newark, NYC, Minneapolis have made those cities better places to live or for their children to get a better education? When Blacks achieve financial success, the first thing they do is run away from the jungle called the "black community" to clean, safe low crime white communities. Mrs. MLK, the Obamas, O.J. Simpson, Maxine Waters....just a few examples of affirmative action blacks who ran away from their own kind to live in safety among "white racists," whom they hate and want to destroy. Enough of this.

Slavery was a scourge, but it was a southern problem that should have bene solved in the south by the south. Killing hundreds of thousands of good white men so that blacks could be freed to migrate north and to fan out across the country and destroy it was a mistake for which white people continue to pay a heavy price. Only complete racial separation can save whites and white children from the scourge of black people and their disdain for every norm of civilized behavior.

Mrs. MLK, Maxine Waters, Michelle and Barack Obama don't want to live around black people or go to school with them and neither do I.
 

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Complete nonsense.

Neither Germany nor Japan had the populations, shipping capacity or ability to project military power into the Western Hemisphere, whether acting individually or jointly. In June 1941 Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa and became irreversibly bogged down in Russian. Even before that Hitler could not cross the English Channel to invade Great Britain. Any serious contention that he could cross 3,000 miles of the Atlantic Ocean is delusional. The "invasion scare" was psychological warfare by the pro-War FDR administration.

Japan only attacked the US because of US sanctions against oil and FDR's secret plans for attacking Japan with bombers (flying from mainland China) before Pearl Harbor occurred. It was only fortuitously that Japan attacked the US First. Declassified doc's show FDR was planning to attack Japan first if his provocations were unsuccessful.

If the US had remained neutral as most citizens wanted, the Japanese and German forces, converging on the USSR from east and west, would have taken out the USSR without any need for a cold war, the Korean War, the Viet Nam war etc.

WW2 was not fought to make the world safe for democracy, but to make the world safe for Communism. It succeeded. Rank and file Americans, 400,000 of whom died for nothing, would have been far served by neutrality. Even a loss the war would have been better for the American people. We'd have been in a stronger position to keep out millions of 3d world primitives who are now overrunning us.

In 1861, the "Union" was securely in control of the northern states, the pacific states (California, Oregon) and territories in between and there is NO evidence that the western states would have broken off into another country.

The south would have been like "South Africa?" What does that even mean? Without the northern conquest and implementation of the so called "civil rights" thinking, whites would never have been relegated to second class citizenship. The South would have been forced to solve the slavery issue on its own without relying on Northern economic support for slavery or fugitive slave laws.

The point is the killing of 600,000 (white) Americans to "end slavery" was the most disgusting waste of human life in the history. It achieved absolutely NOTHING worthwhile. NOTHING. The "freedom" of all the blacks in the world is not and was not worth the life of one white man.

Union victory made possible the creation of a new voting block of millions who do not respect any norm of civilized behavior, the migration of "free" blacks to the north to destroy civilization there and the relegation of whites to permanent second class citizenship. "Civil rights" is a hoax that's achieved nothing more than stripping whites of our rights of freedom of association and freedom of contract and has stripped whites of the power to protect white children from racially motivated violence in forcibly "integrated" schools.

Blacks are always wailing about how dangerous white people are, even as they tirelessly try to attach themselves as tightly to whites as possible, invading our neighborhoods and our schools and destroying them. Does anybody think the black populations of Chicago, Boston, Newark, NYC, Minneapolis have made those cities better places to live or for their children to get a better education? When Blacks achieve financial success, the first thing they do is run away from the jungle called the "black community" to clean, safe low crime white communities. Mrs. MLK, the Obamas, O.J. Simpson, Maxine Waters....just a few examples of affirmative action blacks who ran away from their own kind to live in safety among "white racists," whom they hate and want to destroy. Enough of this.

Slavery was a scourge, but it was a southern problem that should have bene solved in the south by the south. Killing hundreds of thousands of good white men so that blacks could be freed to migrate north and to fan out across the country and destroy it was a mistake for which white people continue to pay a heavy price. Only complete racial separation can save whites and white children from the scourge of black people and their disdain for every norm of civilized behavior.

Mrs. MLK, Maxine Waters, Michelle and Barack Obama don't want to live around black people or go to school with them and neither do I.
Nonsense? The Germans built just one four engine bomber in 1944 which took off from Berlin, turned around 10 miles from New York city, and landed back in Germany that night. That was the delivery system, had it not been for a German physicist mis-calculation in the early 1930s which set their nuclear program back 1 year, they and not the US would have had the atom bomb. A U.S which would have broken off into different countries had the South won the war would not have had the resources to have supported Russia and Britain in their death struggles with Hitler, giving him the worlds first nuclear bomb. One could reasonably say that the fate of the world was decided on July 2nd 1863, by a Bowdoin college professor of languages, who ordered his exhausted and out of ammunition command to "fix bayonets" and led his men in a charge down little round top, which effectively was the turning point of the war.
 
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