[longwinters]

:? I know that there are all kinds of makes, models etc . . . of rifles and this is not what I am interested in hearing about. What I want to know is "what makes one barrel more accurate than another"? FOR EXAMPLE: Some might say "free floated is the only way" but I know some rifles, out of the box, that shoot 1" groups which do not have free floated barrels. So . . . . from those of you with real tack drivers what is the secret? :? And is free floated really better that glass bedded or piller bedded etc...

 

[D MAN]

:? I know that there are all kinds of makes, models etc . . . of rifles and this is not what I am interested in hearing about. What I want to know is "what makes one barrel more accurate than another"? FOR EXAMPLE: Some might say "free floated is the only way" but I know some rifles, out of the box, that shoot 1" groups which do not have free floated barrels. So . . . . from those of you with real tack drivers what is the secret? :? And is free floated really better that glass bedded or piller bedded etc...

Sometimes its not the stock at all??
Having an accurate rifle barrel it depends when your barrel was broached meaning if the broach was new or wornout. They do broach many barrels with the same tool and after a while it leaves a burr or a tight spot this is why it takes 100 rounds to wear the high spots/burrs in the rifling smooth. Of course it takes life off the barrel too. I'm just looking into this they do fire lapping and hand lapping with a bore plug with lapping compound which I'm not too crazy about but they say it does eliminate tight spots. I had a lot of trouble with my mossberg '06 this could be why i did. But it did breakin and settle down and start shooting good after 100rds and I started reloading for it. How we breakin a barrel is up to us I don't over heat a new barrel/gun I shoot a couple of rounds and let it cool and repeat and cleaning it while letting it cool. I refer it to like a new wood stove letting it get hot and letting it cool and it takes a set and will stay that way almost like tempering. The barrel having a long life is what i'm after. How many rounds does a barrel last I'm not sure but I'm checking it and it still looks good after about 500rds now the rifling is still sharp and the bore is still dark. Now my Remington BDL in 338 win.mag. after two boxes it was dead on all sighted in and good to go after finding out it didn't like shooting remington ammo, winchester ammo shot more accurate I even put two bullets thru the same hole at 100yds with bought ammo so i never reloaded for it no need to.

I have noticed in benchresting instead of trying to hold the gun
(sideways/on target) I hold it straight down in the gun rest tight and adjust the rest so the gun when held down is dead on the bull. I put all my force down and rest my shoulder against the butt of the gun I take two deep breaths and let the second one halfway out and hold and fire. I was taught about breathing being an important part of shooting while learning how to shoot for competition. I made my own benchrest setup out of heavy 2X10's one for the front shallow vee and one for the rear a deep vee well cushioned and it works great. I adjust the back vee(f&r) till the site is on target(bull). This is just for the guys who may want to become better or have a problem benchrest shooting we were all new at one time I'm lucky I had someone to teach me at first when i was a kid. but we do pick our own ways too what feels comfortable to us too. BigBill

 

[jose grande]

I'm a NRA Highpower competitor & I do a little gunsmithing,& there is generally not just 1 thing. A Douglas XX Supreme is as good a barrel as is out there but the rifle itself is just as important. Remember I said "generally not just one thing"? I bought a Garand 2-3 yrs. ago from the CMP & it shot groups the size of dinner plates at 100 yds. A friend & I took it apart & looked & scratched our heads & nether regions ( understand there was over 50 yrs. combined experiance looking)before we realized there was not enough downward pressure on the barrel. We tried other stocks until we found one with the right pressure & that rifle in service grade trim will shoot into 1 1/2 in. at 100 yds. So its not just the barrel or the bedding or even the action . Sometimes accuracy involves a little bit of black magic or artistry or feel & sometimes just plain ol hard work. :wink: Good Shooting Guys!!

 

[Zachary]

The only thing that I would add is that the crown of a barrel must be square and burr free. I have most of my rifles re-crowned and they shoot a little better. I believe that virtually all competition rifles have barrels that are hand-crowned.

Zachary

 

[D MAN]

It also depends on what round your using too, there are a lot of things that can be wrong stock, barrel, ammo and shooter too. We just have to stop and figure out what is the problem not always an easy thing to do.
BigBill