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I bought a rifle new in the box that a friend of a friend won at the local Ducks Unlimited banquet recently. It is a Mossberg atr100 chambered in 270Win and was a package gun with a Simmons scope on it but the guy who won it kept the scope, which was fine with me. I bought it for my Son, Kyle, who lives out of state because the 25/06 that I passed down to him that was originally my Dads shot out and now shoots 5" groups. I planned to either give him this rifle or a Tikka T3 300WSM and put the Leupold on the Moss that is on his Ruger 25/06. I wanted to shoot the Mossberg but didn't have a scope to mount on it so I borrowed a friends Simmons El Cheapo that came originally on his Winchester package gun, that he removed when he first bought it. I tried to zero the Moss on paper at twenty five yds so I could then back up to 100 and see how it would group. I couldn't even hit paper this close so I moved up to ten yds and got it to hit the left edge of a fairly large target but the windage adjustment wouldn't move the point of impact even when I ran out of adjustment. It shot a 2 1/2" group at ten yds! Why do they even make this crap? If I would have had the tools with me I would have changed out the Nikon from my 264Win that I also had with me, but I didn't think about that Simmons being this bad.
 

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I figure it is the scope, but before you give it all the blame check the rings and bases to be sure the screws are snug. I have seen many loose bases and rings give similar symptoms. I would snug everything up and then try a known good scope if the groups are still crappy.

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