[wackyquacker]

JL Brand Lures
James Lucero
PO Box 127
Tularosa, New Mexico 88352
1-505-585-6314

Traced this is the info for a lure maker inyour neighborhood...maybe he'd take you on as a student....its worth a try

 

[trace]

thanks

 

[Asa Lenon]

:grin: Wacky writes...
One last thing, asking a lure maker for his formula is like asking him for the combonation to his safe.

Now now Wacky, didn't I give you the secret formula of ground Dodo birds eye teeth? :lol: Ace

 

[jim-NE]

I think Wacky spilled some of his secret on the seat of his truck, too.

 

[wackyquacker]

Least I'm a tryin ta help the youngster...i done learned him everything I know and he still don't know nothin...youins could try and hep out abit more.

Asa, a list of one ingredient is a fer cry from a secret specially when you don't tell how much, ner what form ner wheres a fellow can get some

Jim hows bout you comin down here and ridin along this fall :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

 

[jim-NE]

It would be an honor to tag along with you this fall, Wacky. And the least I could do in return is to offer to drive.
Jim-NE

 

[RdFx]

Oh oh!

Jim make sure you drive up wind of Wacky if you go . Also dont fall for the saying: ill open the gates if you drive either :roll: !!!!!

Trace how are you doing on your bait making? Ask questions as you go along and we will help out. Make sure you write down what you do. Happy Stinking :-D

 

[trace]

im still workin on catching some gophers or somthin as soon as i need them for somthing they always dissapear.. and do any of u know a good bait for carp i have never fished for the things so i have no clue what to use. thanks, trace

 

[Mallard]

Trace, we're limited here in Michigan to the use of furbearers only for bait. Beaver meat with a couple day taint works well, and muskrat works well also. Muskrat meat with a bit of ground castor seemed to be better than rat alone, and beaver meat with a bit of mink gland on it worked better than the meat alone. If you can get your hands on a road killed ferral cat, grab it and put it to use. I understand this bait really pulls them in, but wouldn't know first hand. Gophers will work as well, as I've used them without knowing they were'nt on the list of "furbearers". I simply froze them hole and pulled them out when ready to hit the line. I dap a bit of lure on their nose and drop them into a dirt hole. Worked ok, but nothing like the rat and beaver. The bottom line is I use very little bait and lean heavily towards lure at 90% of my sets. Powder river paste bait seemed to preform the best as far as commercial bait goes. As far as lure I basically use Lenon's, Forget's, and Carmens almost exclusively with a couple from Minnesota trap line products as well. They are all fine lures, and its my opinion that having several proven scents on the line can only help.

As far as carp go, I fish them in a river system using shredded wheat balled tightly around a #8 treble hook. Take the un-sweetened shreded wheat and wet it by dunking it in the water and leting it drain out well. Form the ball around the hook and you should be good to go. Lead size will be dependent on the current, and you need to run a slip weight up about 18" from the hook. I use an egg sinker so that when the carp hits he can free spool it without feeling the sinker. If they are finiky, you can add a couple drops of cod liver oil to the ball and this will really pull them in. The water I fish is only 3-5' deep, so I can see the ball of wheat sitting on bottom and like watching the big carp come up and vaccuum the ball into their mouth. Its amazing that sometimes they do this with very little movement on the rod tip. When you can see the hit, i think you're at an extreme advantage, but if you can't you'll still connect with as many as you need so long as you have a good population. I've also seen a couple fellows using 3-5 kernells of corn on a hook, and doing prety well.

Good luck~

 

[trace]

thanks for the info.

 

[Dave Lyons]

Trace,

I have stayed away from making my own stuff. It is to easy to let guys like Asa and Boggy to make it for you.

I have used Asa stuff with good results. Now I just got a bottle mound master this weekend to try for beaver. But Tom I will be using it down a dirthole also.

So if I was you buying it is just to easy thats what I would do.

Dave

 

[trace]

thanks,i might wind up buyin it but for now it will give me sonthin to do and heck i might make somthin that works, wont know till i try

 

[jim-NE]

I've had very good luck here with fish for coyotes. But, I have also learned to have some "variety" on hand, too. Seems like some years fish was the ticket, then others they wouldn't touch the stuff and only went for something else like 1/4 of a bloody muskrat carcass tainted, or ground meat bait, etc. Then the following year fish seemed to be the ticket again.
Consistently I've had best luck with fish, but I also use a lot of commercially prepared bait, too. The experience behind many of the good recipes available commercially is hard to beat.

 

[trace]

thanks